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      California is considering a proposal that would tax and regulate marijuana, which if enacted would bring in nearly $1.4billion for the state but a pre-requisite would be that the federal government would have to legalize it.

      Would you support the federal government legalizing marijuana?

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      I am definitely for anything that will save our nation from the fate it is rapidly heading towards. California is paying bills with IOU's The Fed's are going to fine businesses that cant afford to provide health benefits for their employees...
      It already is the largest cash crop and no tax is paid...putting the money into the pockets of criminals.
      It should never have been classified with meth, heroin and cocaine anyway.
      Been used my mankind for nearly 10,000 years...
      Queen Victoria used it for menstrual cramps...
      good enough for Vicky is good enough for us to tax.

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      It should be every bit as legal as alcohol. Making it a crime is a total waste of time and money. what floors me is someone who has no problem drinking a 12 pack of bud light a night but freaks out about someone smokin a bowl.

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      without a doubt. Nothin wrong with a lil weed dude.lol...but really...there really isn't anything wrong with weed. There is a list of physical benefits though. Some mental benefits as well.
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      Lets just take a looky at what Marijuana does and doesn't do and or its effects on our "BODY'S" we work so hard at keeping fit and healthy...





      Marijuana (cannabis) is the most widely used illegal drug in many developed countries.1 Medical studies have shown that the active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), might provide some medical benefits in some patients. Under the impression that these benefits were substantial, voters in California and Arizona approved initiatives allowing the use of "medical" marijuana by patients under certain circumstances. This paper represents a current review of the medical literature regarding the benefits and drawbacks of using marijuana for medical or recreational purposes.

      THC is a cannabinoid compound, which binds to CB1 cannabinoid receptors in the human brain.2 These cannabinoids mimic naturally occurring endocannabinoids produced within the brain, but with more powerful effects. CB1 receptors are found in the cerebral cortex (primarily the frontal regions), the basal ganglia, the cerebellum, the hypothalamus, the anterior cingulate cortex, and the hippocampus.3 The effects of THC have been experimentally shown through the use of animal studies and some in vitro human studies. THC acts by inhibiting the release of neurotransmitters, including L-glutamate, GABA, noradrenaline, dopamine, 5-HT and acetylcholine. Although endocannabinoids are rapidly inactivated by the enzyme fatty acid amide hydrolase, exogenous cannabinoids, such as THC, persist for extended periods of time, resulting in the noted physiological effects.

      Anecdotal evidence for the beneficial effects of marijuana eventually led to the design of controlled scientific studies to examine the benefits of marijuana compared to other treatments. A 1997 review of 6059 marijuana-related articles in the medical literature revealed 194 titles on antiemetic properties, 56 on glaucoma, 10 on multiple sclerosis, 23 on appetite, and 11 on palliative or terminal care.2 Numerous studies have been performed since that time, with most concentrating on the analgesic properties of cannabis and its derivatives.

      Early on, THC was been shown to effective for some patients who suffered nausea from cancer chemotherapy treatments. However, the narrow window between the anti-emetic dose and that which caused unwanted psychic effects made THC difficult to use.3 In some studies, negative side effects occurred in up to 81% of patients.4 In one of the few studies using smoked marijuana, 20% of patients dropped out of the study, while another 22% reported no relief of nausea symptoms.5 The advent of serotonin 5-HT3 receptor antagonists as new and more powerful anti-emetic drugs that were free of unwanted psychic effects has made cannabinoid use less attractive. For this reason, physicians virtually never prescribe marijuana or THC as an antiemetic for use by chemotherapy patients.6

      Multiple sclerosis

      Studies have shown that cannabis can relieve muscle pain and spasticity in patients suffering from multiple sclerosis7 and can control tremors in multiple sclerosis animal models.8 However, a study in ten patients with spastic multiple sclerosis showed that smoking marijuana further impaired posture and balance in those patients.9 In addition, MS patients who used marijuana had a greater number of psychiatric diagnoses and a slower mean performance time on standard neurological tests.10 Some randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel group crossover trials have found no significant improvement of MS symptoms during cannabis plant extract use. However, in some trials patients did show an increase in aggressive behavior and paranoiac tendencies in a standard psychological test.11 Another placebo-controlled study, examining the effect of a cannabis extract on spasticity in MS, found a positive partial relief of symptoms in 40% of patients.12 A 10-week, placebo-controlled study of MS patients found that 42% withdrew due to lack of efficacy, adverse events and other reasons. Patients reported 292 unwanted effects, of which 251 were mild to moderate, including oral pain, dizziness, diarrhea, nausea. Three patients suffered five serious adverse events, including two seizures, one fall, one aspiration pneumonia, one gastroenteritis. Four patients had first-ever seizures. A minority of patients received some relief of symptoms.13 So, overall, studies show that a minority of multiple sclerosis patients can receive some symptom relief through the use of marijuana extracts or THC, although a significant percentage of patients suffer unwanted adverse effects.

      Glaucoma

      THC has been shown to reduce intraocular pressure in laboratory animals and humans who have glaucoma.14 However, it was found that intraocular pressure was reduced only when patients stayed under the effects of THC almost continuously.15 Since the early studies, more effective medications, such as 13-blockers and prostaglandins, have been developed to control intraocular pressure. Obviously, glaucoma medications that don't require one to be continuously high are preferable to those that have unwanted side effects.

      Appetite

      Regular marijuana users are aware of the phenomenon known as the "munchies." Laboratory studies have shown that THC does increase the appetite (not a good thing for most of us).16 However, for those suffering from debilitating diseases, such as AIDS-related wasting syndrome, THC has been shown to be effective in maintaining body weight.17

      Analgesia (pain relief)

      Some clinical studies have indicated that THC has some analgesic activity in patients with cancer.18 However, there is a narrow therapeutic window between doses that produce useful analgesia and those that produce unacceptable central nervous system effects. Several studies have shown improvement of pain at higher doses,19 while others have shown no effect or a negative effect at higher doses compared with placebo.20

      Medical marijuana summary
      The use of marijuana or cannabis extracts for medical treatment has been extensively studied over the last 20 years. Initial enthusiasm for THC as an antiemetic or to reduce intraocular pressure has waned with the advent of new medications that provide superior medical benefits with fewer adverse effects. The main success of THC has been found in patients suffering from AIDS-related wasting syndrome and in some cases in which patients are suffering from intractable pain. However, nearly all of these studies involved the use of controlled doses of purified cannabinoids, bypassing the adverse effects associated with smoking marijuana. Dr. Robert L. DuPont, Georgetown University School of Medicine, says that most opponents of the medical use of smoked marijuana are not hostile to the medical use of THC, while "most supporters of smoked marijuana are hostile to the use of purified chemicals from marijuana, insisting that only smoked marijuana leaves be used as 'medicine,' revealing clearly that their motivation is not scientific medicine but the back door legalization of marijuana."21

      Detrimental effects of marijuana
      Studies examining the efficacy of "medical" marijuana have found that a significant percentage of patients suffer from some form of adverse side effects. However, these studies have been limited to a duration of a few weeks to months. Another series of studies have examined the long-term effects of recreational marijuana use.

      Dosage Problems

      One of the main problems with the use of crude "medical" marijuana is that the amount of THC in the preparations varies up to 10-fold, depending upon if the marijuana is made from the flowers or the whole plant.22 Those who can afford the "good stuff" usually get a substantially higher dose of THC than those who buy the "cheap stuff." In addition, studies demonstrate a trend for increasing concentration of THC over the last ten years.23 Because of dosage problems, crude marijuana as a medical "treatment" has proved problematic, despite California's assertion that there is such a thing as "medical" marijuana.

      Brain effects

      Cannabis & Brain
      A recent study using an MRI technique, diffusion tensor imaging, mapped the structural integrity of brain tissue in eleven heavy marijuana users and eleven age matched controls. The study found impaired structural integrity affecting the fibre tracts of the corpus callosum, suggesting the possibility that the structural abnormalities in the brain may underlie cognitive and behavioral consequences of long-term heavy marijuana use.24 Another MRI study found that heavy cannabis users had an averaged 12 per cent volume reduction of the hippocampus, and a 7 per cent reduction of the amygdala compared to controls (see image to right).25 In addition, the study found that long-term cannabis users suffered from psychotic experiences, such as persecutory beliefs and social withdrawal, in addition to the loss of memory equivalent to 15 additional years of aging.25 Another study measured slow brain potentials in response to Go and No Go conditions before, during and after marijuana smoking. The study found normal responses both before and during smoking, but severely disrupted responses 20-40 minutes later,26 during the period of peak intoxication, resembling those found in patients with lateral prefrontal cortex lesions. Another study utilized BOLD fMRI to examine the brain activation patterns in chronic marijuana users and matched control subjects during a set of visual attention tasks.27 Although all subjects demonstrated similar task and cognitive test performance, active and abstinent marijuana users showed decreased activation in the right prefrontal, medial and dorsal parietal, and medial cerebellar regions (regions affected by THC), but greater activation in various frontal, parietal and occipital brain regions. Investigators hypothesized that marijuana users had lost some functionality in parts of the brain affected by marijuana use, which was compensated in other regions of the brain. The long-term consequences of such damage was not assessed, since the average age of marijuana users was less than 30. Another study examined the ability of 25-day abstinent marijuana users to perform decision-making tasks, simultaneously measuring brain activity using PET H215O.28 The marijuana group showed greater activation in the left cerebellum and less activation in the right lateral orbitofrontal cortex (OFC) and the right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (DLPFC) compared with the control group. The investigator concluded that heavy marijuana users had persistent decision-making deficits and alterations in brain activity.28

      Short term memory

      Marijuana usage severely impacts short term memory,29 probably by interfering with the hippocampus.30 Impairment is especially noted in tests that depend heavily on attention.31 Specifically, marijuana intoxication causes deficits in spatial learning tasks,32 delays in matching or non-matching tests,32-33 and impaired performance in a radial arm maze in rodents.34

      Long term cognitive function

      Studies have found that regular cannabis use can cause small but significant impairments in cognitive function that may persist after drug use stops.35 Heavy cannabis use in adolescence may induce subtle changes in the adult brain circuits resulting in altered emotional and cognitive performance and enhanced susceptibility for more harmful drugs of abuse in certain individuals.36 Several studies have found deficits in attention and memory in heavy marijuana users.37-39 However, normalization of cognitive function has been found with prolonged abstinence (after 28 days),38-40 although other studies have observed persistent cognitive deficits.41 Another study found that chronic cannabis use had little effect on cognitive function except for possible decrements in the ability to learn and remember new information.42

      Psychiatric illness

      Some marijuana users can suffer from cannabis psychosis when they take large doses over a period of time, with symptoms characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.43 A recent study found that marijuana use significantly increased the risk of developing mental health problems among those young people who possessed a genetic high risk for schizophrenia (familial risk factors).44 Among cannabis users who developed cannabis-induced psychosis, 44.5% developed schizophrenia-spectrum disorders, with about half of those being diagnosed more than a year after seeking treatment for their cannabis-induced psychosis.45 Another study examined the associations between cannabis use and the development of mood and anxiety disorders.46 The study found no association between cannabis used and the development of anxiety disorders, although there was a significant correlation with the development of depression and bipolar disorder.46 Another study found an association between cannabis use and the development of panic attacks.47

      Marijuana abuse and withdrawal

      Although originally believed not be addictive, marijuana studies have shown that a substantial percentage of users suffer from abuse or dependence.48 An Australian studied found that 10.7% of marijuana users users suffered from substance abuse and another 21% suffered from substance dependence.49 Another study, in the USA, found that 46% of those interviewed had ever used marijuana and 9% of those users became dependent.50 In addition, studies have shown that addicted individuals suffer a clinically significant withdrawal syndrome, which includes craving for cannabis, decreased appetite, sleep difficulty and weight loss, and sometimes anger, aggression, increased irritability, restlessness and strange dreams.51 A study of teens showed that the overall severity of withdrawal was correlated with irritability, depression, twitches and shakes, perspiring, and thoughts and cravings for cannabis.52 Animal studies have shown that THC withdrawal leads to physiological symptoms similar to those seen in animals suffering from opiate withdrawal.53 The symptoms of withdrawal can be lessened by using the CB1 receptor agonist THC, demonstrating that cannabis use results in true addictive withdrawal.54 A recent study has shown that the withdrawal symptoms are comparable to those seen in tobacco withdrawal.55

      Gateway hypothesis:

      There is a tendency for marijuana users to go on to use other addictive drugs, following their initial experience with marijuana.56 Whether marijuana use predisposes individuals to drug abuse as a "gateway drug" or whether it is just the most easily available illicit drug, is not completely known. However, a study of 311 pairs of same-sex twins found that the twins with earlier marijuana use (before age 17 years) were 2–5 times more likely to use other illicit drugs, especially psychostimulants.57

      Concomitant drug use

      A large percentage of Ecstasy/MDMA users (90-98%) also use marijuana.58 Studies have found that each drug is functionally damaging, and polydrug users generally display cumulative neurobiological impairments.58 Another study found that those who use both drugs suffer from immunological impairments characterized by a significant decrease in interleukin-2 and an increase in anti-inflammatory transforming growth factor-β1, along with a decrease in the number of total lymphocytes, CD4+ and natural killer cells.59 Probably as a result of these immunological impairments Ecstasy/cannabis users suffered a significantly higher rate of mild infections.

      Driving & cannabis

      In Europe, three million people use cannabis every day and more than two thirds of those drive after having smoked cannabis.60 Over 50% of drivers in Austria, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and the United Kingdom suspected of driving under the influence of drugs have been found to have THC in their bloodstream.60 Numerous studies have shown that driving under the influence of marijuana use results in a significant increase in motor vehicle accidents especially those resulting in fatalities or serious injuries, even with low blood concentrations of THC.60-63 These studies have been done around the world, including Canada,61 Norway,62 and France.63

      Use during pregnancy

      A study conducted in the Netherlands found that 2.9% of women used cannabis both before and during pregnancy.64 Factors coincident with cannabis use included use by the biological father, being single, childhood trauma, delinquency, and lower educational level.64 The reason why cannabis use is of concern is because it has been shown that THC crosses the placenta, thus entering the fetus during development.65 It has also been found that THC is secreted in breast milk, so it would fed to the newborn during breast feeding.65

      A study at the University of Pittsburg examined the effect of prenatal marijuana exposure on subsequent child intelligence.66 Heavy marijuana use (one or more cigarettes per day) during the first trimester was associated with lower verbal reasoning scores on the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale at age 6. Heavy use during the second trimester predicted deficits in the composite, short-term memory, and quantitative scores. Third-trimester heavy use was negatively associated with the quantitative score, indicating that prenatal marijuana exposure has a significant effect on subsequent school-age intellectual development.66 Another study found that prenatal marijuana exposure in the first and third trimesters predicted significantly increased levels of depressive symptoms in 10-year olds.67 A 2006 survey of the literature revealed that cannabis use during pregnancy was associated with a number of negative outcomes in the child, including symptoms of inattention, impulsivity, deficits in learning and memory, and a deficiency in aspects of executive functions.68 Another study found no effect of marijuana on IQ, but did find that prenatal use negatively impacted executive functions, influencing the application of these skills in problem-solving situations requiring visual integration, analysis, and sustained attention.69

      Use during adolescence

      Adolescent exposure to cannabinoid compounds has been shown to affect the postnatal development of opioid neurons.70 These alterations are likely to produce important long-lasting functional changes in these neurons in the adult brain,71 including alterations in neuroendocrine control,72 pain sensitivity,73 and reward processes.70, 74 Animal studies have shown that cannabis exposure during adolescence can produce lasting memory deficits and hippocampal alterations75 that affect memory and social interaction.76

      Hormonal effects

      Since THC affects the hypothalamus, which directly or indirectly modulates anterior pituitary function, it has been hypothesized that it might affect human endocrine function. Animal and human studies have shown that THC suppresses the reproductive hormones, prolactin, growth hormone, and the thyroid axis, while the hypothalamic pituitary-adrenal axis is activated.77 However, it appears that in humans many of these effects are transitory, likely due to the development of tolerance with continued use of the drug.77

      Cancer risks

      Although smoking marijuana doesn't have the same degree of risk as smoking tobacco (because of the frequency of usage), smoking anything over long periods of time does add to risks of contracting forms of cancer of the respiratory tract. Studies have suggested that smoking marijuana increases the risk of both oral cancers78 and lung cancer.79 This is because marijuana smoke contains carcinogenic materials, including vinyl chlorides, phenols, nitrosamines, reactive oxygen species, and various polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, including Benzo[a]pyrene, which is present in marijuana tar at a higher concentration than in tobacco tar.80 Ammonia was found in marijuana smoke at levels up to 20-fold greater than that found in tobacco.81 Hydrogen cyanide, NO, NO x , and some aromatic amines were found in marijuana smoke at concentrations 3-5 times those found in tobacco smoke.81 However, absolute correlation of marijuana smoking with cancer risks are complicated by concomitant tobacco smoking and increased alcohol use among marijuana users.80

      Adverse cardiovascular events

      Some studies have suggested that marijuana might be a trigger for adverse cardiovascular events, including tachyarrhythmias, acute coronary syndrome, and vascular complications, especially in older users, and may be a risk factor in congenital heart defects for their children.82 Mixing marijuana with cocaine can cause cardiac problems, including the death of an otherwise healthy 31 year old male83 and an acute myocardial infarction in a 21-year old male.84

      Stroke

      Ischemic stroke is found almost exclusively in people of advanced age. However a number of reports have shown an association between cannabis abuse and ischemic stroke in young people85 (one at the age of 1586). Using Doppler sonography scientists were able to determine that cerebrovascular resistance and systolic velocity were significantly increased in marijuana abusers compared to the control subjects and that cerebral perfusion observed in 18-30 year old marijuana abusers was comparable to that of normal 60 year-olds.87 Another study showed that 6 of 10 subjects experienced reduced cerebral blood velocity and dizziness following marijuana use.88 One heavy cannabis user was found to have a right temporal lobe hemorrhage, which was cleared within three months by reducing cannabis use from 2–6 cannabis cigarettes per day to 3–4 cigarettes per week.89

      Oral health

      Marijuana users generally have poorer oral health than non-users, with an increased risk of dental caries (cavities) and periodontal diseases, along with dysplastic changes and pre-malignant lesions within the oral mucosa.90 In addition, users are prone to oral infections, possibly due to immunosuppressive effects.90

      Medical Marijuana Survey 1998-2008
      Marijuana studies 1998-2008
      In any review of the literature, it is possible that reviewer bias can enter the picture and distort the overall impact and conclusions of the review. To mitigate potential reviewer bias, the author initiated a complete Ovid-Medline search of marijuana/cannabis research in February 2009 for the years 1998-2008. Studies were categorized as being "Very Negative," "Mostly Negative," "Neutral," "Mostly Positive," or "Very Positive." Data was collated and is presented in the figure to the right. The data shows that research on the medical effects of marijuana is becoming increasingly negative and decreasingly positive over the last 11 years of medical research. In addition, the number of studies examining the medical aspects of marijuana has increased markedly over the last 5 years, dramatically expanding our knowledge of the mostly negative aspects of marijuana usage (see original data).91

      Legalize marijuana?
      The California state legislature, in its infinite wisdom, is considering a bill (AB 390)92 to legalize the growing of cannabis, its use, and sale. In return, the state expects to get over a billion dollars from the sale of permits and taxes. Besides the revenue, they expect to save millions of dollars from not having to enforce marijuana laws. And, of course, we know that all the people who grow marijuana will do so legally by paying the several thousand dollar permit fee! Although the sale of marijuana is restricted to those 21 years old and older, the penalties for selling to underage persons is $100 or less. As a result of such lenient penalties, it is clear that adolescents will be able to obtain marijuana more easily, leading to increased use, which is especially troublesome given its effect upon the maturing brain. What the legislature seems to have ignored in its financial analysis is the almost astronomical costs that will be incurred through increased health care and mental health costs that will result from increased marijuana use in the population of California. In addition, the number of people driving under the influence of marijuana will increase dramatically, as it has in Europe, since its legalization there. The cost in terms of increased deaths from automobile accidents could be in the hundreds to thousands of lives lost. What are they thinking?

      Conclusion
      Having received dozens of emails saying how good marijuana is (mostly from "Christians"), I have felt the need for a thorough review of the scientific literature regarding the positive and negative aspects of marijuana use. The vast majority of studies show that there is no such thing as "medical marijuana." In general, physicians in the United States are not thrilled with the idea that marijuana should be allowed to be prescribed, since only 36% take that stance.93 The act of smoking marijuana is fraught with so many adverse side effects that it really isn't useful in treating symptoms in any specific disease for the vast majority of sufferers. However, the active ingredient in marijuana (THC) has been shown to be useful for some patients who suffer from chronic pain, especially in refractory cases of multiple sclerosis, and in patients who are suffering from AIDS-related wasting syndrome. Even in those diseases, a minority of patients actually derive a benefit that is without unwanted side effects. THC's use as an anti-emetic for patients suffering nausea from cancer chemotherapy or as a way to lower intraocular pressure for glaucoma has been replaced by far superior new medicines that don't have the negative side effects.

      As a recreational drug, marijuana is not quite as benign as most of its proponents would claim. Heavy marijuana use results in long-term effects on the brain, including lower responses in those areas which are affected by THC. Although users are able to compensate somewhat through the use of other brain areas, the long term effects of this damage, as users age, has not been determined. This damage may be responsible for impairments noted in short-term and long-term memory, along with a host of possible other psychiatric illnesses. A proportion of marijuana users become addicted and suffer from classic withdrawal symptoms upon abstinence. For a minority of users, marijuana is a gateway drug, and they proceed to use and abuse more powerful psychostimulants. Besides its effects upon the brain, marijuana use can lead to increased risks for respiratory cancers and may have some adverse cardiovascular and cerebrovascular effects in some users. Marijuana use during pregnancy has been shown to result in lower child intelligence, while increasing the incidence of mental health problems. The idea that marijuana is a harmless recreational pastime has been disproved through continuing scientific research.



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      Marijuana has often been touted as one of the safest recreational substances available. This is perhaps true; many reputable scientific studies support the conclusion that cocaine, heroine, alcohol, and even cigarettes are more dangerous to the user�s health than marijuana. In addition, the celebrated pharmacological properties of cannabis have led thirty-six states to permit its use as a therapeutic drug for, among others, those suffering from AIDS; various painful, incurable and debilitating illnesses; the harmful side effects of cancer chemotherapy, and glaucoma. Additional research is being conducted concerning the use of marijuana on the treatment of anxiety and mental disorders.

      Nonetheless, it would be fallacious to conclude that because the chemicals in marijuana have been found to present fewer dangers than some very harmful substances, the medical or recreational use of marijuana is perfectly safe. In a recreational context, marijuana has been shown to affect health, brain function, and memory. And in a medical context, marijuana is like any other powerful prescription drug: it has potentially dangerous side effects, and the decision to use it to treat patients must involve the same balancing test as the one required for chemotherapy or AZT: do the therapeutic effects of the drug outweigh its harmful effects? Though there are many more studies to be done on this issue, current data shows that the answer to this question may not always be "yes."



      EFFECTS OF HABITUAL MARIJUANA USE ON THE IMMUNE SYSTEM

      The most potent argument against the use of marijuana to treat medical disorders is that marijuana may cause the acceleration or aggravation of the very disorders it is being used to treat.

      Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi, bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems, this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections, including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients.

      Studies further suggest that marijuana is a general "immunosuppressant" whose degenerative influence extends beyond the respiratory system. Regular smoking has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smoker�s body to defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms, including macrophages (a.k.a. "killer cells") and the all-important T-cells. Obviously, this suggests the conclusion, which is well-supported by scientific studies, that the use of marijuana as a medical therapy can and does have a very serious negative effect on patients with pre-existing immune deficits resulting from AIDS, organ transplantation, or cancer chemotherapy, the very conditions for which marijuana has most often been touted and suggested as a treatment. It has also been shown that marijuana use can accelerate the progression of HIV to full-blown AIDS and increase the occurrence of infections and Kaposi�s sarcoma. In addition, patients with weak immune systems will be even less able to defend themselves against the various respiratory cancers and conditions to which consistent marijuana use has been linked, and which are discussed briefly under "Respiratory Illnesses."

      In conclusion, it seems that the potential dangers presented by the medical use of marijuana may actually contribute to the dangers of the diseases which it would be used to combat. Therefore, I suggest that marijuana should not be permitted as a therapy, at least until a good deal more conclusive research has been completed concerning its debilitating effect on the immune system.

      For more on this topic, please see Donald P. Tashkin, M.D., "Effects of Marijuana on the Lung and Its Immune Defenses," Secretary's Youth Substance Abuse Prevention Intiative: Resource Papers, March 1997, Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Pages 33-51 of this address can be found at the website of the Indiana Prevention Resource Center at Indiana University, located at https://www.drugs.indiana.edu/druginfo/tashkin- marijuana.html.



      RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES

      The main respiratory consequences of smoking marijuana regularly (one joint a day) are pulmonary infections and respiratory cancer, whose connection to marijuana use has been strongly suggested but not conclusively proven. The effects also include chronic bronchitis, impairment in the function of the smaller air passages, inflammation of the lung, the development of potentially pre-cancerous abnormalities in the bronchial lining and lungs, and, as discussed, a reduction in the capabilities of many defensive mechanisms within the lungs.

      Marijuana smoke and cigarette smoke contain many of the same toxins, including one which has been identified as a key factor in the promotion of lung cancer. This toxin is found in the tar phase of both, and it should be noted that one joint has four times more tar than a cigarette, which means that the lungs are exposed four-fold to this toxin and others in the tar. It has been concretely established that smoking cigarettes promotes lung cancer (which causes more than 125,000 deaths in the US every year), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema) and increased incidence of respiratory tract infections. This implies, but does not establish, that smoking marijuana may lead to some of the same results as smoking cigarettes. It is notable that several reports indicate an unexpectedly large proportion ofmarijuana users among cases of lung cancer and cancers of the oral cavity,pharynx, and larynx. Thus, it appears that the use of marijuana as a medicine has the potential to further harm an already ill patient in the same way that taking up regular cigarette smoking would, particularly in light of the fact that those patients for whom marijuana is recommended are already poorly equipped to fight off these infections and diseases.

      For more information, please see the Tashkin website mentioned at the end of the section on immune disorders. See also:

      www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/mrr/ 21.96.10.html, for information on the link between chemicals contained in marijuana and lung cancer.
      https://www.marijuananews.com/latest_...that_heavy.htm, for an article concerning the link between marijuana and cancer, with commentary


      MENTAL HEALTH, BRAIN FUNCTION, AND MEMORY

      It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness. Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.

      In the short term, marijuana use impairs perception, judgment, thinking, memory, and learning; memory defects may persist six weeks after last use. Mental disorders connected with marijuana use merit their own category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) IV, published by the American Psychiatric Association. These include Cannabis Intoxication (consisting of impaired motor coordination, anxiety, impaired judgment, sensation of slowed time, social withdrawal, and often includes perceptual disturbances; Cannabis Intoxication Delirium (memory deficit, disorientation); Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Delusions; Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Hallucinations; and Cannabis Induced Anxiety Disorder.

      In addition, marijuana use has many indirect effects on health. Its effect on coordination, perception, and judgment means that it causes a number of accidents, vehicular and otherwise.

      For further information, you may find the following sites helpful:

      https://www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRU.../updatejl.html, for information on links between marijuana use and mental health risks.
      www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/mrr/21.96.10.html, for more information on the indirect effects of marijuana on health
      https://www.adf.org.au/drughit, the Australian Drug Foundation�s website
      https://marijuananews.com/a_safe_ high_.htm, a reprint of New Science magazine�s "Marijuana Special Report: A Safe High?" with commentary
      https://marijuananews.com/claim_four.htm, an article about the similarity of long-term marijuana use�s effect on the brain to that of "hard" drugs, with commentary
      https://www.drugs.indiana.edu/publica...okescreen.html, for general information on the health risks of marijuana.
      https://www.health.org, the homepage of the National Clearinghouse on Alcohol and Drug Information, for general information on marijuana.



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      Now mind you, I am not against marijuana at all!! I believe we have our own minds to make our own choices in life and we are the ones that have to live with those choices. My point is, that I don't believe by any means the government needs to get there hands on taxing this!! I can't even imagine this!! Yes it would bring in revenue, but do we want them dictating how much, where, when or how you use this?!! Heck it will be just like the supplements they end up taking away from us, that actually work!!


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      Now mind you, I am not against marijuana at all!! I believe we have our own minds to make our own choices in life and we are the ones that have to live with those choices. My point is, that I don't believe by any means the government needs to get there hands on taxing this!! I can't even imagine this!! Yes it would bring in revenue, but do we want them dictating how much, where, when or how you use this?!! Heck it will be just like the supplements they end up taking away from us, that actually work!!


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      uh, guys, at this point i think that whatever california is doing...the rest of us should do the OPPOSITE.
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      Quote Originally Posted by IronpumpedLady View Post
      Now mind you, I am not against marijuana at all!! I believe we have our own minds to make our own choices in life and we are the ones that have to live with those choices. My point is, that I don't believe by any means the government needs to get there hands on taxing this!! I can't even imagine this!! Yes it would bring in revenue, but do we want them dictating how much, where, when or how you use this?!! Heck it will be just like the supplements they end up taking away from us, that actually work!!


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      exactly!..so what do you think the illegality of marijuana is? Federal legalization would be a step back in the correct direction. We should make our own decisions on what goes into our bodies.
      The government control of all these supplements, hormones, substances such as marijuana is rediculous. We don't need them dictating what they deem is right or wrong, good or bad. Adults shouldn't have a government parenting them. Until that nanny control ends, America will have adults acting like irresponsible children. The government should just be in place to protect each and every citizen, and their possessions, from outside violence and fraud.
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      I don't have a problem with the legalization of it, but I think its sad that the only reason they will consider it now is because they need the money. If its something you want- they don't give a crap, but when it something they want- well thats something different all together

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      IPL, those are some very compelling facts. Thanks so much for posting that. I suppose I can be open to having my mind changed on this issue. How can I say that it should be legal before Ive fully researched and weighed out the issues. I suppose my hair trigger response is that pot should be legalized.

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      Quote Originally Posted by deepsouth View Post
      I don't have a problem with the legalization of it, but I think its sad that the only reason they will consider it now is because they need the money. If its something you want- they don't give a crap, but when it something they want- well thats something different all together
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      Lets just take a looky at what Marijuana does and doesn't do and or its effects on our "BODY'S" we work so hard at keeping fit and healthy...

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      Having received dozens of emails saying how good marijuana is (mostly from "Christians"), I have felt the need for a thorough review of the scientific literature regarding the positive and negative aspects of marijuana use. The vast majority of studies show that there is no such thing as "medical marijuana." In general, physicians in the United States are not thrilled with the idea that marijuana should be allowed to be prescribed, since only 36% take that stance.93 The act of smoking marijuana is fraught with so many adverse side effects that it really isn't useful in treating symptoms in any specific disease for the vast majority of sufferers. However, the active ingredient in marijuana (THC) has been shown to be useful for some patients who suffer from chronic pain, especially in refractory cases of multiple sclerosis, and in patients who are suffering from AIDS-related wasting syndrome. Even in those diseases, a minority of patients actually derive a benefit that is without unwanted side effects. THC's use as an anti-emetic for patients suffering nausea from cancer chemotherapy or as a way to lower intraocular pressure for glaucoma has been replaced by far superior new medicines that don't have the negative side effects.

      As a recreational drug, marijuana is not quite as benign as most of its proponents would claim. Heavy marijuana use results in long-term effects on the brain, including lower responses in those areas which are affected by THC. Although users are able to compensate somewhat through the use of other brain areas, the long term effects of this damage, as users age, has not been determined. This damage may be responsible for impairments noted in short-term and long-term memory, along with a host of possible other psychiatric illnesses. A proportion of marijuana users become addicted and suffer from classic withdrawal symptoms upon abstinence. For a minority of users, marijuana is a gateway drug, and they proceed to use and abuse more powerful psychostimulants. Besides its effects upon the brain, marijuana use can lead to increased risks for respiratory cancers and may have some adverse cardiovascular and cerebrovascular effects in some users. Marijuana use during pregnancy has been shown to result in lower child intelligence, while increasing the incidence of mental health problems. The idea that marijuana is a harmless recreational pastime has been disproved through continuing scientific research.



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      okay, I just used these last two paragraphs to make a point on how people with an agenda attemp to manipulate the reader.
      Clearly this guy is against marijuana by the points he has chosen to throw at the reader, such as stating that most doctors "aren't thrilled with the idea of medical marijuana", since only 36% take the stance for it. "only 36%"!!! That's a huge percentage even though it's less than half, at a glance...that's massive when you take all the drug companies and what they do for the medical industry, doctors, handouts, closed door bonuses. It's the same reason doctors push certain brand drugs for each ailment to all their patients. The slight negative sides of marijuana don't compare to the sides of prescription pills. Marijuana hasn't proven deadly in any way. Most every drug otc and prescription have terrible physical sides.
      What totally discredits a source is the big, bold faced, out-right lie. In this article, the big lie that throws all other information given by this guy out the window is the statement that "marijuana users become addicted and suffer from classic withdrawal symptoms upon abstinence." absolutely false
      This guy mentions long term use developes a slowed response. uhhh, that happens as people age naturally.
      I think I saw something about THC being the cause of traffic fatalities, or car crashes?..How did they come to this conclusion? The article states that THC was found in the driver's blood. Well, traces of THC can be found up to 8 wks after last used. so just because it's in the driver's blood, doesn't mean that he/she just got finished hitting a bong, or that they're anywhere near high.

      The reason you have people like this guy writing negative articles on the clinical/medical use, recreational use, & legalization is because of how bad it would upset the drug companies. Federal legalization would offset OTC drugs as well as a large portion of prescrition meds. Drug companies don't want that, so they'll put out bullshyt "study" after "study" pointing out what they want the reader's attention focused on. You'll really have to search the world for independant studies because these guys aren't playing anymore. Marijuana is out of the bag...pardon the pun...and the drug corps can't, and won't, stand for it. They're not going belly-up over a natural, harmless weed.

      You can disguise and manipulate facts and/or results from studies to direct readers to come to a conclusion based on the agenda. Hell, you can manipulate studies to acheive predetermined conclusions, to keep the general public on one side or the other of a very hard debated topic such as legal marijuana.
      This same guy,that wrote that article, could write an article that directs the reader to really consider how beneficial marijuana is while seeming to be nuetral, as he tried to do in this one.
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      It's like with me. If they did a study with me. I don't like the way pot makes me feel, so that would be a negative side against the psyche. Marijuana also makes me feel anxious at times, so I guess that would be a negative side against the nervouse system, etc...
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