Tweet"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe." — President Obama, Feb. 4.

Catastrophe, mind you. So much for the president who in his inaugural address two weeks earlier declared "we have chosen hope over fear." Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill.

Tweetbecause he doesnt know how to be a president or a senator even. he's a community organizer thats it.

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Originally Posted by Stout1

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe." — President Obama, Feb. 4.

Catastrophe, mind you. So much for the president who in his inaugural address two weeks earlier declared "we have chosen hope over fear." Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill.

LMAO...

TweetSo Stout, you think if we don't act now we'll be ok?

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Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge

So Stout, you think if we don't act now we'll be ok?

So the first bail out worked...yes?

So this one will work even better...yes?

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Originally Posted by Stout1

So the first bail out worked...yes?

So this one will work even better...yes?

I'll answer you questions so you will answer mine.

First bail out work? no
Will this one work? I believe it will.

Now answer my question. Do you think we're better off doing nothing? And if not, what do you suggest we do? I hear alot of resistance to the stimulus, but no alternative solutions

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Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge

I'll answer you questions so you will answer mine.

First bail out work? no
Will this one work? I believe it will.

Now answer my question. Do you think we're better off doing nothing? And if not, what do you suggest we do? I hear alot of resistance to the stimulus, but no alternative solutions

Lower fukin taxes thats what getting rid of frisbeee fukin parks and atv roads there some fukin answers. pork everywhere in this bill which you did admitt to . cmon fit why not tell us here in this forum how frisbee parks and rebuilding atv roads are going to make jobs. first he said 4 million new jobs now he's down to 3.5. he's full of shit but you want to think he's the greatest

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Originally Posted by FUZO

Lower fukin taxes thats what getting rid of frisbeee fukin parks and atv roads there some fukin answers. pork everywhere in this bill which you did admitt to . cmon fit why not tell us here in this forum how frisbee parks and rebuilding atv roads are going to make jobs. first he said 4 million new jobs now he's down to 3.5. he's full of shit but you want to think he's the greatest

geez fuzo, don't get so emotional, that's why I've stopped answering your post. everything is a 'fukin' 'oblowma' 'idiot' simmer down man. i swear i can feel your blood pressure rise when you see a post by me. come give me a hug 'funky bunch'. can't we discuss the state of the union and still be friends? man, I'd love to go out for beers with you, stout, firstenrgy, klash, that's be some night lol.

ill say this, the house bill was riddled of the fat you're talking about. listen, i dont think anyone is saying that this bill will without any doubt help. I dont think anyone is garanteeing that 2.5, 3.0, 3.5 or 4.0 million jobs will be created. I do know that we're (in the Messiah's own words) 'living in extraordinary times that call for extraordinary measures' Obama is betting his presidency on this Bill. If it fails, its his ass and everyone that followed. If it doesn't fail (I'm hopeful and confident that it wont), this will be a great time in American history.

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Originally Posted by Stout1

So the first bail out worked...yes?

So this one will work even better...yes?

You're not answering questions...but re-directing the thread...you haven't answered me but conviently side stepped this one.

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Originally Posted by Stout1

You're not answering questions...but re-directing the thread...you haven't answered me but conviently side stepped this one.

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Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge

So Stout, you think if we don't act now we'll be ok?

If by o.k. you mean good - no, we won't be o.k. but we would be better off than giving the politicians power and control to decide who benefits from "stimulus" and who wont.

The only option government has is to apply force and when that doesn't work they need more legislation that allows them to apply more force. No matter how you cut it - force does not correlate to stimulus. Force is the opposite of stimulus and the opposite of what we need.

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Originally Posted by Klash

If by o.k. you mean good - no, we won't be o.k. but we would be better off than giving the politicians power and control to decide who benefits from "stimulus" and who wont.

Fine, I will respect your opinion. So we won't be ok if we do nothing. Any alternative solutions?

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Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge

Fine, I will respect your opinion. So we won't be ok if we do nothing. Any alternative solutions?

The only solution we have is to stop doing what put us here and that is government intervention. The longer we wait to remove government from our economy, the longer and harder our economy will suffer. We have to let people fail and let people succeed by their own merit, not by government criteria.

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Originally Posted by Klash

The only solution we have is to stop doing what put us here and that is government intervention. The longer we wait to remove government from our economy, the longer and harder our economy will suffer. We have to let people fail and let people succeed by their own merit, not by government criteria.

But isn't that what was done the last 8 years? The Bush administration let the markets run ramped to do as they please, in the name of free market. That's what got us to where we are today.

Mind giving some examples of things that have not worked the last 8 years that we can change that would help us get out of this mess?

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Originally Posted by Klash

The only solution we have is to stop doing what put us here and that is government intervention. The longer we wait to remove government from our economy, the longer and harder our economy will suffer. We have to let people fail and let people succeed by their own merit, not by government criteria.

Amen Bro!!!