Tweetvery true scally.

Tweetoh you mean hold him accountable for what the last president has done or has not done?

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Originally Posted by snickers1

oh you mean hold him accountable for what the last president has done or has not done?

How did you get that I want to hang the short-comings and failures of the previous president on Obama?

TweetObama is going to screw everything up.

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Originally Posted by FUZO

Obama is going to screw everything up.

i pretty unfair statement to make but it is your opinion and will respect that i just hope when he does some good that you recognize it and not make excuses and just say hey that was a good call or a good thing he did..

How would McCain done so well... he failed in running a good campaign there was plenty of opportunity for him to make huge gains in the polls and make some huge statements but he didn't, he was out of touch with what was happening with the economy and you know that... did he say the economy was strong or had a strong foundation and the very next day every thing crapped out?

i am not gonna get into a huge debate or pissing contest bottom line is America spoke thee was not voter fraud no high jinx Obama ran a great campaign and he won that is it. we have had plenty of bad presidents in the past rep and dem. lets see what this one does.

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Originally Posted by snickers1

i pretty unfair statement to make but it is your opinion and will respect that i just hope when he does some good that you recognize it and not make excuses and just say hey that was a good call or a good thing he did..

How would McCain done so well... he failed in running a good campaign there was plenty of opportunity for him to make huge gains in the polls and make some huge statements but he didn't, he was out of touch with what was happening with the economy and you know that... did he say the economy was strong or had a strong foundation and the very next day every thing crapped out?

i am not gonna get into a huge debate or pissing contest bottom line is America spoke thee was not voter fraud no high jinx Obama ran a great campaign and he won that is it. we have had plenty of bad presidents in the past rep and dem. lets see what this one does.

How long will Obama get to use Bush as an excuse for his administrations failures? Do you think McCain would have received that kind of tolerance for failure? When are his supporters going to get excited about the implementation of his policies of change (it's hard to get excited over vague rhetoric) - all I've seen is excitement for the color of his skin but at least he's black; that obviously means something to a lot of people.

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Originally Posted by Klash

How long will Obama get to use Bush as an excuse for his administrations failures? Do you think McCain would have received that kind of tolerance for failure? When are his supporters going to get excited about the implementation of his policies of change (it's hard to get excited over vague rhetoric) - all I've seen is excitement for the color of his skin but at least he's black; that obviously means something to a lot of people.

why are we even having such a wasted discussion? The guy has not even been sworn in the political forum has just been post after post of bashing the guy. He has not even been sworn in yet and he is being touted as a failure. No matter who won they have long up hill battle, and don't even try saying well McCain could do it better or would be better because bottom line is you don't know that for a fact and if that was the case he would not of lost.

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Originally Posted by snickers1

why are we even having such a wasted discussion? The guy has not even been sworn in the political forum has just been post after post of bashing the guy. He has not even been sworn in yet and he is being touted as a failure. No matter who won they have long up hill battle, and don't even try saying well McCain could do it better or would be better because bottom line is you don't know that for a fact and if that was the case he would not of lost.

I'm expressing the tactics that will be used to protect Obama's liberal ideology from being held responsible for his failure. When Obama fails we will be saturated with the excuse that he has an up hill battle because of all the damage Bush has done. I am simply asking do you think McCain would would get the same benefit of the doubt from the "media"?

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Originally Posted by snickers1

why are we even having such a wasted discussion? The guy has not even been sworn in the political forum has just been post after post of bashing the guy. He has not even been sworn in yet and he is being touted as a failure. No matter who won they have long up hill battle, and don't even try saying well McCain could do it better or would be better because bottom line is you don't know that for a fact and if that was the case he would not of lost.

I WILL SAY MCCAIN WOULD OF DONE BETTER. YOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT HE GOT ELECTED BY THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. DO I NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT 92% OF BLACK PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM IN VIRGINIA.WELL YOU FELL FOR HIS LIES. ALL THE EVIDENCE WAS THERE. IF YOU WANT A PRESIDENT WHO HAS TERRIOST TIES ,AYRES,ODINGA THEN YOU AND OTHERS HAVE LOST YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS SCUM.TAPES THAT WERENT SHOWN BY NEWS PAPERS,BIRTH SECRTIFICATES WERENT SHOWN THE ORIGINAL. MSM JUST SUCKED HIS DICK. WHAT THAT DID TO PALIN AND EVEN JOE THE PLUMBER IS SICKENING. BUT WAIT THEY DONT GO AFTER A TERRIORIST AS BILL AYRES IS. YEAH RIGHT. PEOPLE FELL FOR HIS LIES

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Originally Posted by Klash

I'm expressing the tactics that will be used to protect Obama's liberal ideology from being held responsible for his failure. When Obama fails we will be saturated with the excuse that he has an up hill battle because of all the damage Bush has done. I am simply asking do you think McCain would would get the same benefit of the doubt from the "media"?

i think if Obama fails the media will be even be more harsh, think about it for a minute i think you will get it. I think his expectations are much higher then they would be if McCain had won. Face it he is the First African American to get voted in, if he fails he very well could be the last, so i think he has a much higher expectation then McCain would have had.

the Real ? is why so soon to jump the conclusion he will fail? what if he succeeds and our country is in a much place in 4 years? let me guess it be because of the the policies that bush set in place that are taking full effect?

If Obama succeeds no right winger on this board will admit and will just come up with excuse one right after another.

A true American supports his country and defends it at all cost just as McCain did and will do.

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Originally Posted by snickers1

i think if Obama fails the media will be even be more harsh, think about it for a minute i think you will get it. I think his expectations are much higher then they would be if McCain had won. Face it he is the First African American to get voted in, if he fails he very well could be the last, so i think he has a much higher expectation then McCain would have had.

the Real ? is why so soon to jump the conclusion he will fail? what if he succeeds and our country is in a much place in 4 years? let me guess it be because of the the policies that bush set in place that are taking full effect?

If Obama succeeds no right winger on this board will admit and will just come up with excuse one right after another.

A true American supports his country and defends it at all cost just as McCain did and will do.

With all due respect but that was the purpose of what I said in the orignal quote on this thread. As Americans it is time to back the man that the majority elected. I don't think it unreasonable to ask to hold him or any other elected offical accountable for what they promised.

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Originally Posted by snickers1

i think if Obama fails the media will be even be more harsh, think about it for a minute i think you will get it. I think his expectations are much higher then they would be if McCain had won. Face it he is the First African American to get voted in, if he fails he very well could be the last, so i think he has a much higher expectation then McCain would have had.

I agree no one could live up to his hype but the media won't let him fail - his failure is not a good story. He's the ultimate underdog (that's what sells) - his presidency is already a success or even the most successful; he just has to go through the motions and his supporters just have to let the mainstream media do their thinking for them.

Originally Posted by snickers1

the Real ? is why so soon to jump the conclusion he will fail? what if he succeeds and our country is in a much place in 4 years? let me guess it be because of the the policies that bush set in place that are taking full effect?

We elected a black man as president; the rest of the world is already happy with that. So our perception has already been improved but being black isn't going to help our economy, our defense and our freedoms. Why will he fail because he does not believe in freedom. Statism has failed for centuries and Obama has failed to see that. Why do you think America was the most powerful country to ever exist? Do you think it is only a coincidence that it was also the most free?

Originally Posted by snickers1

If Obama succeeds no right winger on this board will admit and will just come up with excuse one right after another.

If he veto's dangerous legislation against personal freedom, I'll give him kudos. If he makes individual freedom his agenda, I'll give him kudos but I find that possibility highly unlikely; he's a marxist

And likewise if his agenda's are bad for freedom will you recognize it and admit it.

Originally Posted by snickers1

A true American supports his country and defends it at all cost just as McCain did and will do.

It depends on what America is standing for; as long as America stands for freedom - I'll be it's patriot. When it doesn't - I won't. And I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that Obama values individual freedom.

TweetThe unfortunate part is this.....Obama is coming in after several years of a down economy. History has shown that our economy goes up and down. He will be in office as it rebounds and be considered theone that did it. Look at the Clinton era, he came in during the dot com era and the tech boom and was given all the credit. LMAO! Like Clinton had anything at all to do with that industry.....yet.....he got the credit because it happened during hsi watch. I have been saying for years now that the next gotta have it tech item is coming and I'm sure it will come during Obama's watch and he will get all the credit for it. Just wait and see.....