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      and raisng taxes in this economy will kill small business's. and remember that congress is democraticly run and have the majority .you keep staying away from his policies
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      Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
      i didn't say anything about the bills mccain sponsored over the last 20 years. i mentioned the one he supported that happens to be the most significant alteration to the nation's banking system in the last 50 years. i'm sorry, but there is no excuse for being ignorant of this if you are running for veep.

      where you think someone should get their facts from is irrelevant. what is relevant is the fact that she was inable to name one. she couldn't even make something up.

      you won't be a victim of alleged "gotcha journalism" if you are informed. what a pathetic copout for being ignorant. the woman is saying she is ready to take on the world stage, but she can't handle journalists? WEAK.

      she is a hinderance to the campaign and in no way fit for the job. even conservatives agree on this.

      Picking one bill out of twenty years is gotcha journalism.

      I actually prefer honesty as apposed to making something up. I think that a Governor of a state 90 miles away from Russia could tell those newspapers a thing or two about foreign policy.Obviously some of us are less impressed with the major newspapers than you are.

      You think Palin couldn't handle journalist, Obama couldn't even handle Joe the plumber. LOL

      She is only a hindrance to liberals that want to elect Obama. I don't know what kind of conservatives you talk but I hear nothing but support for Palin from real conservatives.

      I noticed that you didn't respond to Obama's 57 states comment, hmmm just like the main stream media.
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      and raisng taxes in this economy will kill small business's. and remember that congress is democraticly run and have the majority .you keep staying away from his policies
      if all small businesses made $250K or more you would be right, but the fact is that 90% of small businesses make less than that. so to say that his tax plan will affect all small business is simply false.

      and i'm not staying away from his policies. what else do you wnat to discuss?
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      Quote Originally Posted by NRA CHICK View Post
      Picking one bill out of twenty years is gotcha journalism.

      I actually prefer honesty as apposed to making something up. I think that a Governor of a state 90 miles away from Russia could tell those newspapers a thing or two about foreign policy.Obviously some of us are less impressed with the major newspapers than you are.

      You think Palin couldn't handle journalist, Obama couldn't even handle Joe the plumber. LOL

      She is only a hindrance to liberals that want to elect Obama. I don't know what kind of conservatives you talk but I hear nothing but support for Palin from real conservatives.

      I noticed that you didn't respond to Obama's 57 states comment, hmmm just like the main stream media.
      yeah, i mean it's sooooo gotcha to ask someone to be familiar with (and educated about) the most significant piece of financial legislation in the last 50 years. give me a break.

      and if she could tell those newspapers a thing or two about foreign policy, why didn't she do so when given the chance? did she choose to look like a bumbling fool? an "honest" one? is that her moose in the headlights strategy? how well has that worked out?

      joe the plumber... how well has that one worked out? LOFL

      i guess the only real conservatives are the ones who support your viewpoints huh.

      https://www.thewashingtonnote.com/arc...ervatives_a_1/

      ...i haven't talked to any of these folks, but they are highly regarded in conservative circles.

      yep, obama had a gaffe. ONE FRIGGIN GAFFE. palin is a walking gaffe and an embarassment.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
      if all small businesses made $250K or more you would be right, but the fact is that 90% of small businesses make less than that. so to say that his tax plan will affect all small business is simply false.

      and i'm not staying away from his policies. what else do you wnat to discuss?
      thats is total horse shit about small business's making less. thats liberal talk thats obama talk. see no matter what you say its still welfare redistribution and giving 40%of people who dont pay taxes money,again whats your answer to that,.you think thats fair taking from one group to give to another and cmon phreak you dont answer me about health care,raising taxes wont affect the economy. who is telling you that it wont affect small business's You are totaly brain washed like others and just dont want to admit that you cant raise taxes in this economy. you keep avoiding certian subjects
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      thats is total horse shit about small business's making less. thats liberal talk thats obama talk. see no matter what you say its still welfare redistribution and giving 40%of people who dont pay taxes money,again whats your answer to that,.you think thats fair taking from one group to give to another and cmon phreak you dont answer me about health care,raising taxes wont affect the economy. who is telling you that it wont affect small business's You are totaly brain washed like others and just dont want to admit that you cant raise taxes in this economy. you keep avoiding certian subjects
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      you dont talk about health care you dont talk about how capital gains will go up and affect small business's.you dont talk about how raisng taxes will kill the economy more your saying everything a liberal will say with out facts.and what bothers me is that you beleive it.you post liberal sites that are so one sided. what have you said about the msm phreak
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      you dont talk about health care you dont talk about how capital gains will go up and affect small business's.you dont talk about how raisng taxes will kill the economy more your saying everything a liberal will say with out facts.and what bothers me is that you beleive it.you post liberal sites that are so one sided. what have you said about the msm phreak
      ok- i am not in favor of his health plan. i feel if you want health insurance you should get out and work for it like i did. this is one of my disagreements with him.

      your interpretation of his tax plan is from the republican party line, i.e. skewed. eliminating tax cuts for the very rich will NOT kill the economy. if that was true the ones that are in place would have kept it afloat, but look at the state of the economy and you can see that the current tax plan does not work in that regard.

      the capital gains tax is something else i disagree with him on. i believe investment should be encouraged. and while this raise will only affect top earners i oppose it.

      i don't give a shit about msm. yes, they are biased. so is fox. i watch neither network.

      as far as the links i posted, YOU are using the typical right wing tactic of attacking the messenger, not the message. YES they are left leaning sites, but the numbers are from CONGRESS itself. the message refutes your claim despite your slagging off of the site it comes from. if you care to refute the message itself i am all ears.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
      yeah, i mean it's sooooo gotcha to ask someone to be familiar with (and educated about) the most significant piece of financial legislation in the last 50 years. give me a break.

      and if she could tell those newspapers a thing or two about foreign policy, why didn't she do so when given the chance? did she choose to look like a bumbling fool? an "honest" one? is that her moose in the headlights strategy? how well has that worked out?

      joe the plumber... how well has that one worked out? LOFL

      i guess the only real conservatives are the ones who support your viewpoints huh.

      https://www.thewashingtonnote.com/arc...ervatives_a_1/

      ...i haven't talked to any of these folks, but they are highly regarded in conservative circles.

      yep, obama had a gaffe. ONE FRIGGIN GAFFE. palin is a walking gaffe and an embarassment.
      First of all the most important piece of financial legislation was the housing and community development act of 1974, which liberals used to empower Fannie & Freddie to force lending institutions to give loans to people with no income or assets.

      Moose in the headlights, being insulting is always where you libs have to go.
      Nice.

      Actually Joe has shined a light onto Obama's Marxism.
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      There is only one type of conservative the rest are called moderates, Palin was a great choice by McCain regardless of the handful of Republicans that disagree.

      You're right most of what Obama says are not gaffes they are called lies.
      Oh by the way "My Muslim faith" that's a good one too. Last time I checked I didn't forget which God I believed in.

      Just think how great it will be, if your Messiah wins then the whole world will just be peaches and roses. Those will be the days....

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      Quote Originally Posted by NRA CHICK View Post
      First of all the most important piece of financial legislation was the housing and community development act of 1974, which liberals used to empower Fannie & Freddie to force lending institutions to give loans to people with no income or assets.

      Moose in the headlights, being insulting is always where you libs have to go.
      Nice.

      Actually Joe has shined a light onto Obama's Marxism.
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      There is only one type of conservative the rest are called moderates, Palin was a great choice by McCain regardless of the handful of Republicans that disagree.

      You're right most of what Obama says are not gaffes they are called lies.
      Oh by the way "My Muslim faith" that's a good one too. Last time I checked I didn't forget which God I believed in.

      Just think how great it will be, if your Messiah wins then the whole world will just be peaches and roses. Those will be the days....

      You have a good night.
      no, it wasn't the socialism of our banking system... it was "them dayum libruls" in 1974.

      yes, i do insult her. she is an ignoramous with bravado and deserves every bit of it. i notice how you could refute nothing btw, you just result to calling me a "librul".

      her husband is also a secessionist who belongs to a group that is openly hostile towards america. country first huh?

      joe the plumber was a sham and nobody gives a crap except the hardliners like yourself. it's the same with every wild swing the mccain camp has made- it's red meat for middle america morons who will vote for them no matter what, but nothingness for those who are educated enough to see what it really is.

      that's right, dismiss off the conservatives that have called palin out for what she is. they aren't "real" conservatives are they? LOFL

      my messiah? peaches and roses? now you are making stuff up. what color is the sky on your planet anyway?
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      i'd like to take back the words "middle america morons" because that is insulting to all people from middle america and leaves out all the morons everywhere else in the US, who deserve equal ridicule.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
      ok- i am not in favor of his health plan. i feel if you want health insurance you should get out and work for it like i did. this is one of my disagreements with him.

      your interpretation of his tax plan is from the republican party line, i.e. skewed. eliminating tax cuts for the very rich will NOT kill the economy. if that was true the ones that are in place would have kept it afloat, but look at the state of the economy and you can see that the current tax plan does not work in that regard.

      the capital gains tax is something else i disagree with him on. i believe investment should be encouraged. and while this raise will only affect top earners i oppose it.

      i don't give a shit about msm. yes, they are biased. so is fox. i watch neither network.

      as far as the links i posted, YOU are using the typical right wing tactic of attacking the messenger, not the message. YES they are left leaning sites, but the numbers are from CONGRESS itself. the message refutes your claim despite your slagging off of the site it comes from. if you care to refute the message itself i am all ears.



      your interpretation of his tax plan is from the republican party line, i.e. skewed. eliminating tax cuts for the very rich will NOT kill the economy. if that was true the ones that are in place would have kept it afloat, but look at the state of the economy and you can see that the current tax plan does not work in that regard.

      my interpretation you must not listen to even democrats that say this also,just look at california.you mentioned congress the democratic controlled congress that one.you ears are also one sided. yet you call your self a republican. . and if i'm attacking the messenger dont post liberal bull shit web sites.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
      look, i put myself through school twice, and have worked for everything i have. the LAST thing i want is to take it and give to someone who doesn't work.

      AND the majority of the new tax revenues will come from ending the tax cuts for the top 1% of earners in this country. trust me when i say this does not include you or me.

      YES if you are a couple earning more than $250K per year your taxes will increase. so, i can understand why you would oppose the plan if you fall into this tax bracket.
      Yup, you are right... the government should put you through school at least four or five times before deem you uselees and dole out taxpayers dollars to you
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      Quote Originally Posted by firstenrgy View Post
      Yup, you are right... the government should put you through school at least four or five times before deem you uselees and dole out taxpayers dollars to you
      Hello! McFly!!!

      Great post!
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