Re: Who do you think will win?
not even gonna entertain this one not more... i totally don't agree with pulling the race issue.... if he wins i would like think he wins on his own merit, and because he ran a good campaign and if McCain wins for the same reason.. as we all have been saying polls are polls are the night of election i believe we will different story all together..
Re: Who do you think will win?
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FUZO
IT STILL AMAZES ME PHREAK YOU CAN SAY CRAP ABOUT PALIN WHEN OBAMA HAS LESS EXPERINCE THEN SHE DOES.THATS A FACT. BUT YOU AND OTHER LIBERALS LIKE TO JUMP ON HER CASE. BUT NO ONE WANTS TO SAY SHIT ABOUT BARNEY FRANK AND ALL THOSE LIBERALS THAT ****ED UP CONGRESS,OH NO SHHHHH. AND HOW THE MSM IS SUCKING OBAMAS KOCK. LETS NOT FORGET OBAMA PICKED A VP WHO LOST THE PRES 2X BEFORE AND CAME IN LAST IN THE PRIMARIES AND SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO RUN WITH MCCAIN AND SAID TO OBAMA THIS ISNT A ON THE JOB TRAINING TO BE PRESIDENT.YOU ARE JUST AS BLIND AS ALL THE OTHER LIBERALS WHO THINK OBAMA HASNT ASSOCIATED HIMSELF TO BILL AYRES,REV WRIGHT,REZCO,PHLEGER,ODINGA.WHY ISNT THE MSM COVERING THIS PHREAK. WHY BECAUSE IF THEY DID YOUR CANIDATE WOULDNT HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL.AS MICHELLE OBAMA SAID SHE HATES AMERICA THEN CHANGES HER TUNE LATER. ALSO FUNNY HOW THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS PULLING INTERVIEWS OF BIDEN BECAUSE THE INTERVIEWER ASKED HIM TO HARD OF QUESTIONS.WHAT DOES A BLACK MAN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. THAT IS A RACE ISSUE YOU JUST SAID.ALSO LIKE IVE SAID TO OTHER MEMBERS IN THIS FORUM BACK YOU STATEMENTS UP WITH FACTS. BECAUSE I'M NOT TOLERATING THIS SHIT ANYMORE IN THIS FORUM. THE RACE IS SO ONE SIDED AND YOU KNOW IT BUT DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT. ATLEAST SOME OBAMA SUPPORTERS IN THIS FORUM SAY ITS A ONE SIDED SHOW
wow. ok, you win. your version of "facts" will be in stark contrast to mine (and reality for that matter) so there is no point. and you call people like me kool-aid drinkers...
Re: Who do you think will win?
my facts are correct and why do people just walk away when The facts are presented. back up what you say with facts and just answer my questions on his policies instead of saying you win.
Re: Who do you think will win?
i've always though obama would win it
majority of people are generally disgusted with politics, yet, know we have to have something, someone lead us
i think deep down inside most people think, a 12 year old could have done better than bush,
obama's been running for 20 months, and i think most folks are willing to take chance, cause they think, he could do no worse than what the republicans have done
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Phreak
nah, it will be funnier when all mccain is remembered for is losing to a BLACK guy. oh yeah, and perhaps the worst running mate in history. bush sr, is breathing a sigh of relief right now as dan quayle will no longer be remembered as the dumbest.
Can you give specific examples of why she is dumb?
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NRA CHICK
Can you give specific examples of why she is dumb?
i shouldn't have said she is dumb. she is woefully misinformed, ignorant. i do not believe she is dumb. but i will give examples of why she is woefully misinformed.
both interviews she did with cbs are a good start as to why.
her inability to name one single periodical she reads to keep up with foreign affairs is another.
her clear misunderstanding of the circumstances around the bailout are as well.
also the fact that the mccain campaign kept her from the media to keep her from being exposed would count too.
i can keep going if you want.
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FUZO
my facts are correct and why do people just walk away when The facts are presented. back up what you say with facts and just answer my questions on his policies instead of saying you win.
that rambling paragraph of nonsense hardly comprises facts, it sounds more like angry rhetoric. there is nothing to refute because there is nothing there.
put something together that is rational and i will respond.
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FUZO
my facts are correct and why do people just walk away when The facts are presented. back up what you say with facts and just answer my questions on his policies instead of saying you win.
btw are the results of mccain's senate voting record, from factcheck.org:
https://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...oted_with.html
https://mediamatters.org/items/200808130001
i guess the CQ's voting studies are librul fabrications?
Re: Who do you think will win?
nothing there,well taxes will go up,40% of americans dont pay taxes so obama's plan is welfare redistribution,he even said it. lets give money to people who dont pay taxes. oh he said he isnt raising taxes so tell me how he said he is going to spend 1 trillion dollars in new spending. how 14 million illegals are getting free health care,who is going to pay for that.how dare anyone take money from my grandfather who worked his ass off to make something of himself and have the gov say **** you i'm taking that. thats real good phreak. you beleive in that huh. you beleieve in all of obamas minsane policy.huh so if i'm rambling then answer those questions. and then tell us how taxes arent going to be raised then.simple math. and there is enough of facts I posted to back up my statements. I sure dont see anyone hear backing obamas plan. we have tripwho just wants a democrat in office because he says its time for one,lol
preety damn good example right here
Redistribution of Wealth (How it will work)-Funny But Could Be True!!
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Redistribution of Wealth (How it will work)-Funny But Could Be True!!
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Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
Also, employers could announce the consideration of employee raises, then withhold those raises and give the proceeds to a worthy cause, preferably one involving non-workers ...
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Phreak
sometimes I think people dont do there home work. annenberg who owns fact check,my god phreak.Yeah and alot others used to think fact check was always right to.jesus christ phreak you post something from media matters why not the huffington post also next time.
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Phreak
i shouldn't have said she is dumb. she is woefully misinformed, ignorant. i do not believe she is dumb. but i will give examples of why she is woefully misinformed.
both interviews she did with cbs are a good start as to why.
her inability to name one single periodical she reads to keep up with foreign affairs is another.
her clear misunderstanding of the circumstances around the bailout are as well.
also the fact that the mccain campaign kept her from the media to keep her from being exposed would count too.
i can keep going if you want.
* Oh OK so Palin wasn't aware of all the bills that McCain had put forward in the past twenty years but Obama said there was 57 states and she is misinformed???
* I don't think getting your facts about foreign policy should be from the newspapers.
* Yeah hid her away from gotcha journalism, that Biden would never be exposed to.
Keep going if you want.
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FUZO
nothing there,well taxes will go up,40% of americans dont pay taxes so obama's plan is welfare redistribution,he even said it. lets give money to people who dont pay taxes. oh he said he isnt raising taxes so tell me how he said he is going to spend 1 trillion dollars in new spending. how 14 million illegals are getting free health care,who is going to pay for that.how dare anyone take money from my grandfather who worked his ass off to make something of himself and have the gov say **** you i'm taking that. thats real good phreak. you beleive in that huh. you beleieve in all of obamas minsane policy.huh so if i'm rambling then answer those questions. and then tell us how taxes arent going to be raised then.simple math. and there is enough of facts I posted to back up my statements. I sure dont see anyone hear backing obamas plan. we have tripwho just wants a democrat in office because he says its time for one,lol
preety damn good example right here
Redistribution of Wealth (How it will work)-Funny But Could Be True!!
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Redistribution of Wealth (How it will work)-Funny But Could Be True!!
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Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
Also, employers could announce the consideration of employee raises, then withhold those raises and give the proceeds to a worthy cause, preferably one involving non-workers ...
first of all, the majority of tax dollars DO NOT go to social programs:
https://mibi.deviantart.com/art/Death-and-Taxes-9410862
look, i put myself through school twice, and have worked for everything i have. the LAST thing i want is to take it and give to someone who doesn't work.
AND the majority of the new tax revenues will come from ending the tax cuts for the top 1% of earners in this country. trust me when i say this does not include you or me.
YES if you are a couple earning more than $250K per year your taxes will increase. so, i can understand why you would oppose the plan if you fall into this tax bracket.
but ask yourself this question- how has the current tax code benefitted the middle class? do you REALLY believe the elite give two solitary craps about you?
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NRA CHICK
* Oh OK so Palin wasn't aware of all the bills that McCain had put forward in the past twenty years but Obama said there was 57 states and she is misinformed???
* I don't think getting your facts about foreign policy should be from the newspapers.
* Yeah hid her away from gotcha journalism, that Biden would never be exposed to.
Keep going if you want.
i didn't say anything about the bills mccain sponsored over the last 20 years. i mentioned the one he supported that happens to be the most significant alteration to the nation's banking system in the last 50 years. i'm sorry, but there is no excuse for being ignorant of this if you are running for veep.
where you think someone should get their facts from is irrelevant. what is relevant is the fact that she was inable to name one. she couldn't even make something up.
you won't be a victim of alleged "gotcha journalism" if you are informed. what a pathetic copout for being ignorant. the woman is saying she is ready to take on the world stage, but she can't handle journalists? WEAK.
she is a hinderance to the campaign and in no way fit for the job. even conservatives agree on this.
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cmon man thats a waste of a site. obama is going to also raise the capital gains tax. phreak he will raise taxes its what the democrats do,bigger gov. and cmon phreak those policies ive asked you about can you give a answer on how they will work without raising taxes. you cant because you know they will.redistribution on money its sick
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FUZO
cmon man thats a waste of a site. obama is going to also raise the capital gains tax. phreak he will raise taxes its what the democrats do,bigger gov. and cmon phreak those policies ive asked you about can you give a answer on how they will work without raising taxes. you cant because you know they will.redistribution on money its sick
waste of a site? YOU mentioned tax revenue distribution, and i showed you where it went. what more do you want?
of course taxes will be raised, through eliminating the tax cuts in place.
and how else do you propose we pay for the out of control spending of the last 8 years?
it kills me how you guys mention democratic spending when the bush admin has spent enough to put us in record debt.