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Originally Posted by Rolsroyce

Well if Ron cant spin this thing and get in there and take it away from McCain somehow then I will keep my vote because it wont make a difference anyway bro.

Rolls, come on pally. I expect more from you. You seem like an intelligent bro. But I'm sorry to say, that's the pu$$y way out if you ask me. There are approx. 250 million Amercians of voting age. If only a mere 1% of America's voting populations felt the way you did and said "My vote doesn't count", that's 2.5 million missed votes. Those Florida primaries a few years back might have been a whole hella lot different if everyone voted! Plus, if you don't vote, you have no right to speak about the politics in this country, since you weren't part of the solution.

Tweetits not a rumor that mccain gave up info..he didnt get the nickname songbird for nothing...i cant believe how many people here are coming to his defense..by no means am i a ******y or obama supporter but **** open your eyes!! mccain is a traitor...not to mention what he did to his first wife...how messed up was that? and if you like mma you might be proud of mccain for trying to get ufc banned because of his ties to boxing...he is a flip-flopping lying pos..ever heard of mccain-feingold? its a bill he put out with his own name on it and was put into law and then he goes and breaks his OWN campaign finance law!!? are you kidding me? i think im done with this subject..people believe what they want...TRUTH IS TREASON IN THE EMPIRE OF LIES!!!!!

Tweetyour opinion and you have every right to it but back it with facts. show us the facts that he gave up info stray thats all. this is just a politic forum if this is getting you that mad then dont even click the politic forum then if it upsets you.the people of the united states picked mccain as the republican canidate, the millions of people

I POSTED THE ARTICLE BUT WHAT DID HE BREAK

TweetALSO WHO REALLY GIVES A CRAP WHAT HE DID TO HIS FIRST WIFE OR THE UFC.


AND THIS STRAY WHAT DID HE BREAK IN THIS LAW. AND THIS WAS IN 2002 6 YRS AGO WASNT IT





The McCain-Feingold-Cochran Campaign Reform Bill

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The McCain-Feingold-Cochran campaign reform bill is similar to the bills that were debated in the 105th and 106th Congresses. A strong bipartisan majority of both the House and the Senate favors this reform. It contains the following major components:

A Ban on Soft Money. The bill would prohibit all soft money contributions to the national political parties from corporations, labor unions, and wealthy individuals. State parties that are permitted under state law to accept these unregulated contributions would be prohibited from spending them on activities relating to federal elections, including advertising that supports or opposes a federal candidate. In addition, federal candidates would be prohibited from raising soft money. These provisions would shut down the Washington soft money machine, prohibiting the $100,000, $250,000 and even $500,000 contributions that for the last decade have flowed to the political parties.

McCain-Feingold-Cochran would also double the amount of "hard" money individuals may contribute to state parties for use in federal elections, from $5,000 to $10,000. It would increase the amount of "hard" money an individual may contribute in aggregate to all federal candidates, parties, and PACs in a single year from $25,000 to $30,000.

Restrictions on "Phony Issue Ads" Run by Corporations and Unions (The Snowe-Jeffords Amendment). First adopted as part of McCain-Feingold during the Senate's February 1998 campaign finance debate, the Snowe-Jeffords amendment addresses the explosion of thinly-veiled campaign advertising funded by corporate and union treasuries. These ads skirt federal election law by avoiding the use of direct entreaties to "vote for" or "vote against" a particular candidate. Under the bill, labor unions and for-profit corporations would be prohibited from spending their treasury funds on "electioneering communications." "Electioneering communications" are defined as radio or TV ads that refer to a clearly identified candidate or candidates and appear within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of a general election. This definition does not include any printed communication, direct mail, voter guides, or the Internet. It would also not cover issue advertising that does not identify a specific candidate or appears outside of the 30/60 day pre-election window.

The Snowe-Jeffords amendment permits 501(c)(4) non-profit corporations to make electioneering communications as long as they use only individual contributions (not corporate or union funds) and make certain disclosures. The amendment thus prevents unions or corporations from laundering funds through non-profits to make electioneering communications.

The amendment also provides that a group making electioneering communications that total $10,000 or more in an election cycle must disclose its identity, the cost of the communication, and the names and addresses of all contributors of $1,000 or more to the sponsor of the communication within the cycle. If the group makes expenditures on electioneering communications from a separate bank account to which only individuals can contribute, it need only disclose the large donors to that account.

The Snowe-Jeffords amendment treats corporations and unions fairly and equally. It does not prohibit any election ad, nor does it place limits on spending by outside organizations. But it will give the public crucial information about the election activities of independent groups and prevent corporate and union treasury money from being spent to influence elections.

Strict Codification of the "Beck" Decision. The bill would require labor unions to notify non-union employees that if they file an objection, they are entitled to have their agency fees reduced by an amount equal to the portion of fees used for political purposes.

Foreign Money. McCain-Feingold-Cochran would strengthen current law to prohibit foreign nationals from making any contributions in a federal, state or local election. The foreign money abuses from the 1996 election that captured so much attention would be entirely shut down by this proposal.

Greater Disclosure and Stronger Election Laws. McCain-Feingold-Cochran contains a number of provisions designed to improve disclosure of campaign finance information and strengthen enforcement of the law. The bill would: (1) strengthen current law to make it clear that it is unlawful to raise or solicit campaign contributions on federal property, including the White House and the United States Congress: (2) bar federal candidates from converting campaign funds for personal use, such as a mortgage payment or country club membership; (3) specify circumstances in which activities by outside groups or parties will be considered coordinated with candidates; and (4) provide more timely disclosure of independent expenditures.

Tweetummm..no..he broke this law this year...and my point about the ufc thing is that he was trying to ban something due to his own special interests so he didnt lose money..you want somebody that is all for themselves and their pocket to run the country..and he said out of his own mouth that he doesnt know anything about economics and the economy!!! no being in the beginning stages of a recession that is only going to get worse, you want somebody in office that doesnt know anything about monetary policy...wow...

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Originally Posted by FUZO

IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THERE BOTH REPUBLICANS SO EVEN BEING A REP YOU WONT VOTE REP

im not rep or dem, im for the country and the best person for the job. the people of the country is what this is all about... not these rich ass holes that run.

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Originally Posted by angryoldman

Rolls, come on pally. I expect more from you. You seem like an intelligent bro. But I'm sorry to say, that's the pu$$y way out if you ask me. There are approx. 250 million Amercians of voting age. If only a mere 1% of America's voting populations felt the way you did and said "My vote doesn't count", that's 2.5 million missed votes. Those Florida primaries a few years back might have been a whole hella lot different if everyone voted! Plus, if you don't vote, you have no right to speak about the politics in this country, since you weren't part of the solution.

it doesnt make a difference bro. there is no one worth voting for. if i vote, no matter how i vote. im still voting for the wrong person bro...
none are the correct person to lead the country.
thats like saying which child molester would you like to teach kindergarten.

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Originally Posted by straydoglogic

ummm..no..he broke this law this year...and my point about the ufc thing is that he was trying to ban something due to his own special interests so he didnt lose money..you want somebody that is all for themselves and their pocket to run the country..and he said out of his own mouth that he doesnt know anything about economics and the economy!!! no being in the beginning stages of a recession that is only going to get worse, you want somebody in office that doesnt know anything about monetary policy...wow...

me and all the other millions of people. and thats why every president has advisers to advise them on whats right or wrong every president has them.and besides reading the news paper now today now not a year ago or yrs ago and all the political shows at night with all the advisers on tv new and old ones saying who should be president thats what i isten to and read.and the majority is mccain supporters. so those distinguished people are also frauds and fakes

TweetYES!! its called corporate media and special interests....have you ever heard of rupert murdoch? or the news that he "allows" you to see? if you believe everything on the news and in papers then youre a sheep...people have alterior motives..we are lied to all our lives and people believe the lies thinking they can trust what theyre told...i SEARCH for answers..not have them GIVEN to me..."TRUTH IS THE ENEMY IN THE EMPIRE OF LIES!"

TweetWELL I TOLD YA I READ ON THE NET I WATCH ON THE NEWS AND READ THE NEWS PAPERS SO I'M A SHEEP.WHERE ELSE AM I GOING TO GET MY INFO FROM THEN

Tweetim just saying dig deep and question everything..believe what you want.

Tweetdo you boys need a time out from political talks??

Tweeti think maybe...lol