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      What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?

      Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, 'Mexican Visitor's Lament' -- 10/25/07.

      She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, 'They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...What happens to your country's economy if 20
      million people go away?' That's a good question - it deserves an answer.
      Over 80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal immigration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?

      The answers may surprise you!

      In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

      In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandkids, would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
      costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

      Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

      Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% drop/flunk out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students
      speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado.

      Denver's 4% unemployment rate would vanish as our working
      poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

      In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

      In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.



      If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' ...

      If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local, state and city coffers.

      No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English.

      No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than 2 million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

      We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion, annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually, would vacate our country.

      In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more illegal Mexicans running forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

      Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

      America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.

      At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

      Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

      Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse gases.

      Over 1 million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is,
      those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation. The New York Times reported them to be America's new 'Third World' inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect
      20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing
      our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

      We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot, and must not, allow anarchy at our borders, nor more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life.

      Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

      1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens.
      https://tinyurl.com/zob77

      2. $2.2 billion are spent each year on food assistance
      programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
      https://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

      3. $2.5 billion are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
      aliens.
      https://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

      4. $12 billion are spent each year on primary and secondary
      school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/l dt.01.html

      5. $17 billion are spent each year for education for the
      American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/l dt.01.html

      6. $3 Million PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
      aliens.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/l dt.01.html

      7. 30% of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/l dt.01.html

      8. $90 billion are spent each year on illegal aliens for
      welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/l dt.01.html

      9. $200 billion per year in suppressed American wages are
      caused by the illegal aliens.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/l dt.01.html

      10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's 2 1/2 times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the U.S.
      https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/l dt.01.html

      11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine,
      and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.
      https://tinyurl.com/t9sht

      12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a 5 year period.
      https://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publicati ons.php?b=deportation

      13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
      https://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

      14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!'
      https://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml





      The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

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      Maybe the gears will start turning in the right direction on this problem. The buzz about it is definfitely getting louder. Let some things hit home with the right people and we'll damn sure see some action.
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      its a double edge sword.....i dont know howng to replace an illegal alien with a american citizen and pay him a livable wage...this is hore****!Instead of a farmer paying 10 illegals $5 to pick oranges, now he has to pay a gringo $15 to pick them...instead of contractors paying a mexican $5 an hour to build your home, now he has to employ union carpenters, elctricians, plumbers at $40 an hour....well the cost of that home went from $150k to $450k easy, and the produce the farmer grew quadrupled in cost.......you can apply this to almost anything in the us, especially in the southwest...so everyone wanting to ship out th mexicans better be willing to pay alot more for services and products, because no americans are going to do those jobs for anything close to the wages mexicans do.
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      Default Re: WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??

      Quote Originally Posted by pigmeat View Post
      its a double edge sword.....i dont know howng to replace an illegal alien with a american citizen and pay him a livable wage...this is hore****!Instead of a farmer paying 10 illegals $5 to pick oranges, now he has to pay a gringo $15 to pick them...instead of contractors paying a mexican $5 an hour to build your home, now he has to employ union carpenters, elctricians, plumbers at $40 an hour....well the cost of that home went from $150k to $450k easy, and the produce the farmer grew quadrupled in cost.......you can apply this to almost anything in the us, especially in the southwest...so everyone wanting to ship out th mexicans better be willing to pay alot more for services and products, because no americans are going to do those jobs for anything close to the wages mexicans do.
      You said it perfectly! It is a double edge sword! Seeing as how I live in the city just south of Denver I can vouche for the statistics given and I see first hand due to my appraising how many of the construction laborers are hispanic. I go to a home that's almost done and I'm a nice guy, I say "how's it going" to the dudes and maybe....maybe....one out of ten will understand what I sad and respond in english. I've showed up at a house, got out of my car with my camera and saw guys take off running. LOL But, and I don't know how it is where you guys are, but here they actually make pretty decent money. Not what union guys would make, but it's pretty good. But, we are talking about the guys with good finish work skills (tile, hardwood, trim, etc).

      Pigmeat is right, if they all left the state may save money but it would cost us in the mark up of retail items. But, if that made my city safer, then so be it. I'd rather spend more to be safer but not everyone is in a position to say that, so I understand it would come at an expense in some area.
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      IMO, it's not primarily the illegal aliens that are the problem. It's a flawed system.

      Get rid of welfare, the war on drugs, government schools and minimum wage and bam, most those problems are gone.

      And if coming here legally didn't cost $15k and a over a decade, I don't think people would resort to coming here illegally.

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      I'd throw a party !
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      they def need to clamp down on the freebies they get
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      But the important question is who is going to cut my damn lawn???
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      Default Re: WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??

      Quote Originally Posted by pigmeat View Post
      its a double edge sword.....i dont know howng to replace an illegal alien with a american citizen and pay him a livable wage...this is hore****!Instead of a farmer paying 10 illegals $5 to pick oranges, now he has to pay a gringo $15 to pick them...instead of contractors paying a mexican $5 an hour to build your home, now he has to employ union carpenters, elctricians, plumbers at $40 an hour....well the cost of that home went from $150k to $450k easy, and the produce the farmer grew quadrupled in cost.......you can apply this to almost anything in the us, especially in the southwest...so everyone wanting to ship out th mexicans better be willing to pay alot more for services and products, because no americans are going to do those jobs for anything close to the wages mexicans do.
      your right, but people could pay more becouse they would make more. i live in a "union state". everything up here gets done by union. yes, house's cost alot more here than they did in fla, but up untill the recent woe's with the auto industry, people made ALOT more. those $40hr contractors buy houses also. they buy cars and alot of goods and service's. when they are un-employed...they buy nothing. a 450k house is all relative to what you make. in fla, i couldnt even imagine having a 2200$ a month motgage...but here, i have one! i do see your point, but i would still lean on the side of show them the door!
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      Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg View Post
      But the important question is who is going to cut my damn lawn???
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      Quote Originally Posted by pigmeat View Post
      its a double edge sword.....i dont know howng to replace an illegal alien with a american citizen and pay him a livable wage...this is hore****!Instead of a farmer paying 10 illegals $5 to pick oranges, now he has to pay a gringo $15 to pick them...instead of contractors paying a mexican $5 an hour to build your home, now he has to employ union carpenters, elctricians, plumbers at $40 an hour....well the cost of that home went from $150k to $450k easy, and the produce the farmer grew quadrupled in cost.......you can apply this to almost anything in the us, especially in the southwest...so everyone wanting to ship out th mexicans better be willing to pay alot more for services and products, because no americans are going to do those jobs for anything close to the wages mexicans do.
      I know a town very well that has been labeled one of the fastest growing towns in America on several occasions by different magazines and tv shows over the past 20 years. The Mexicans just showed up in this town within the last 5-6 years, because of the growth that all America saw 5 years ago. Houses being built like crazy. New subdivisions everywhere. This town I'm talking about had resort condos going up like mad, and still does. Well, these Mexicans haven't helped this small town worth shyt. I have a couple of close friends that are general contractors. My father in law is a general contractor. I was a specialty contractor building aluminum construction (pool cages, screen rooms, etc) and fences for a few years when it was smokin. Anyway, the only companies that benefit from the Mexicans are the big ones. The largest pool company in half of the state made great use of them for low pay and long hours. Some sub-contractors use them, but you gotta be right there on them or they'll use their method, (half ass short cut). My cousin has a big stucco outfit, and we rode around a couple times and he showed me some jobs that Mexicans were doing that bidded against him. They weren't even using lath. Just slap some quarter/half inch foam board up and stucco over it, and they only cut the ethical stucco company, my cousin, by like $5-10k. My point is, this small town did better without them. The only, and I mean the only ones that really benefit are the very large companies and farms. The same companies that can damn well pay Americans a good wage. Around this chain of resort towns on the emerald coast, it's nice to show up to a job with all Americans. The jobs pay enough for even the smallest of subs to pay decent wages. The cheap bastards that won't are just that. And if somebody pinches pennies and hires Mexicans to do something for them. Well, they get what they pay for.
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      WHY DONT WE START BUILDING STUFF OVER IN MEXICO AND START TAKING UP THERE COUNTRY. THERE HERE SO WE WILL GO THERE AND BUILD. AMERICANIZE IT EVEN MORE
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      Quote Originally Posted by daved150 View Post
      your right, but people could pay more becouse they would make more. i live in a "union state". everything up here gets done by union. yes, house's cost alot more here than they did in fla, but up untill the recent woe's with the auto industry, people made ALOT more. those $40hr contractors buy houses also. they buy cars and alot of goods and service's. when they are un-employed...they buy nothing. a 450k house is all relative to what you make. in fla, i couldnt even imagine having a 2200$ a month motgage...but here, i have one! i do see your point, but i would still lean on the side of show them the door!
      I'm with dave on this one for sure. Especially as are unemployment percentage is rising so much. defenitly be more work for the americans.
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      what i was saying is mostly refering to the southwest....the wages would never keep up with the cost of living increase...i have 3 mexicans work for me...they are documented, yes, and i will tell you, they are the best workers i have...they dont complain about bad jobs, or break time or any of that..they just get the job done and go home...and they all 3 make $25 an hour wth benefits too
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      Default Re: WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??

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      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??

      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      • WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA??
      Quote Originally Posted by pigmeat View Post
      its a double edge sword.....i dont know howng to replace an illegal alien with a american citizen and pay him a livable wage...this is hore****!Instead of a farmer paying 10 illegals $5 to pick oranges, now he has to pay a gringo $15 to pick them...instead of contractors paying a mexican $5 an hour to build your home, now he has to employ union carpenters, elctricians, plumbers at $40 an hour....well the cost of that home went from $150k to $450k easy, and the produce the farmer grew quadrupled in cost.......you can apply this to almost anything in the us, especially in the southwest...so everyone wanting to ship out th mexicans better be willing to pay alot more for services and products, because no americans are going to do those jobs for anything close to the wages mexicans do.
      Your absolutely false, and are apparently living in a fantasy land. Illegals have driven down all of the wages of construction workers. It has not dropped the cost of building the homes! Contractors charge the same rate to build the homes, but keep the extra profits from hiring illegals. As someone that works in the construction field, most of my family works in the construction field, and many of my friends do, I personally know the devastating effects illegals have had firsthand to this industry alone!

      You said you work in a coal mine or something right? So where do you get off talking about construction as if your an expert?

      As for the farms your wrong there too. What about homeless people, people working at Mcdonalds and things like that? What about high schoolers? When I was in school I worked on some farms picking strawberries and was paid by the bushel. I did that part time + I worked as a dishwasher full time while in high school. I didn't expect to get paid $15, neither did any other non illegal I worked with!

      Your fear mongoring, and your spouting off your mere opinion is fact! You need to do some actual research before you decide to pretend your an expert!

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