How many of you pay for Dish Network or Direct TV ? They can get expensive when you get a couple movie channels and PayPer View ,Adults channels ,ect . The Sonicview 8000 HD reciever is all you need .I got mine off of ebay for alittle over $600 wt 8PSK Q-Board (must need it to view HD channels get channels from DN) Just like the scrambler box that you used to get back in the days wit cable .I got 2 dish pointing the 61.5 dish is for HD and the Dish Pro 500 picks up 110 and 119 sat signals .....OVER 1500 ch ! Whenever the Dish Network puts the scramble (code) the recievers goes down but the board is awesome they get it up and running right away .When it goes down they put codes and this board always puts it up right away just download the file (upgrade the new bin) unzipp it then put your USB flashcard in and upload it then take it out ,and put it in your reciever and upload the new file .I bought this before football season and havnt paid FTA means Free To Air and is legal to have (reciever) but is not responsible for 3rd party which is the files you download but you tell them its for testing purposes only Here is a great board to join to get the new bins and reviews and stuff . www.ftalife.com