Tweeti hear ya bro, but i really cant relate...i'm 205 (or there about) and i dont have problems doing shyt but getting to 210! i can understand what your saying, and i have no wish to be that big. i admire you guys that are...thats a hell of an accomplishment, but i dont see how it would do me any good in my life. (other than scaring the complete crap out of my daughters boyfreinds...) i only wish ya the best, and would hate to hear of any type of injury or illness out of ya. 240 is still a big fuker bro..you gotta do whats right for you.

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Originally Posted by daved150

i hear ya bro, but i really cant relate...i'm 205 (or there about) and i dont have problems doing shyt but getting to 210! i can understand what your saying, and i have no wish to be that big. i admire you guys that are...thats a hell of an accomplishment, but i dont see how it would do me any good in my life. (other than scaring the complete crap out of my daughters boyfreinds...) i only wish ya the best, and would hate to hear of any type of injury or illness out of ya. 240 is still a big fuker bro..you gotta do whats right for you.

Thats the thing bro it doesnt help in anything in life imo. Im not the stereotypical I need attention meathead. I life and make gains because I like the challenge. But after awhile its like ok now I am at this point and what do I do?? I would rather stay at a comfortable weight and be athletic now. I was an all state athlete in HS in 2 sports and played college baseball, so I miss that athleticism. I guess along the way I missed the LEAN GAINS BUS and hopped on the get big as hell retard bus. I am just noticing things are getting harder to do and when it isnt as fun anymore than its time to change your goals.

Tweeti want to be big, but i rather be healthy and happy

TweetC, do what you think would help you better yourself in terms of heath. if you think cutting down to a healthy 230-240 would benefit that, then go for it. being that heavy is not natural, weather it's 275 and 40% bf, or 275 and 12%...so blood pressure would always be an issue i'd think. you can always look back and be a "used to" guy...."i used to be almost 300lbs" lol.j/k. i say go for it.

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Originally Posted by a-bomb83

C, do what you think would help you better yourself in terms of heath. if you think cutting down to a healthy 230-240 would benefit that, then go for it. being that heavy is not natural, weather it's 275 and 40% bf, or 275 and 12%...so blood pressure would always be an issue i'd think. you can always look back and be a "used to" guy...."i used to be almost 300lbs" lol.j/k. i say go for it.

LOL!! Well I went to the Chiro early this week and my back is jacked up and my BP is high. My chiro asked me this "What is the point and why are you trying to get so big....you are just tearing your body down for nothing....you could lose 40lbs and look amazing"...blah blah, I didnt want to hear it at the time That was a good question as I have noticed things getting more sore and sleep is not as good as it was. Im a realistic person and not one of those "fuuk that Im getting huge and F the world types" Its just a tough place to be when your so used to doing things a certain way...I have a buddy who got the same way last year and hes a healthy 240 and missing being big but says he isnt going to be a pro and wants to be around for a long time for his son.

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Originally Posted by Corrodo

LOL!! Well I went to the Chiro early this week and my back is jacked up and my BP is high. My chiro asked me this "What is the point and why are you trying to get so big....you are just tearing your body down for nothing....you could lose 40lbs and look amazing"...blah blah, I didnt want to hear it at the time That was a good question as I have noticed things getting more sore and sleep is not as good as it was. Im a realistic person and not one of those "fuuk that Im getting huge and F the world types" Its just a tough place to be when your so used to doing things a certain way...I have a buddy who got the same way last year and hes a healthy 240 and missing being big but says he isnt going to be a pro and wants to be around for a long time for his son.

excellent point of view...and bro...240 is fukin big!!! lol...your throw "240" around like me talking about 170!!! your killing me! lol.

Tweeti can relate to how you feel! i always seems to be hurting and tired and wonder if it's worth it, but on the days i feel good.... oh hell yeah it is...LOL! as far as the blood pressure, there are plenty of things you can do to feel batter and may help bring it down. just need to research and learn to see what the options are. good luck ya freak!!!!

down to a weak 240lbs.... i wish i could get UP to a lean 215!!!

TweetHealth first man. I know a pro powerlifter who wound up givin it all up for that very thing. He was 275 at around 5'9" and was gettin a little burned out with it all. One day he was out playin with his kid and he fell out, scared the hell outa his boy. His bp was up, enzymes up, etc... and decided that although competitive lifting is his passion, his kids are his life.

TweetCorrodo, I can relate to how you feel. I will be 50 in November and am at a steady 260-265. I have about 15% BF, but am getting to the point I am tired of all the heavy lifting and continous soreness every day. I can't reach across myself to scratch my shoulder or my back. Luckily I have a thoughtful wife.
I have tried several times to talk myself into lowering the weights, increasing the reps and cardio and get down to the 230-240 range. Just every time I get in the gym, my younger workout partner says he needs me to push him, and I can't do that with lighter weights.
I know, like you said, the 230-240 range will be better in the long run for joints and health.Just got to make myself do it. Hope it works out for you also. Keep us posted on your decission. My be asking you for some help with getting me to slow down a little!

TweetI was just talking about this with a guy on another board. I was cutting for a while and I got down to 257ish. Anyway, the low carbs were killing me and I went back to bulking. I got on the scale yesterday and looked down and it said 292. 294 is my previous high, but I am almost certainly going over 300 this cycle. I wonder all the time if its worth it to be big, but I will tell you what I told the guy yesterday. I have been so big for so long that if I had to go back to being 220 I would cry myself to sleep at night. It is an addiction.

TweetThe decision here is obvious. At age 27 you should be thinking about the future, because it is here. Am I correct in assuming that you have been on and off gear for a while now? At 270-280 gear-assisted pounds, you are putting great strain on your cardiovascular system. How much do you think you would weight had you never done gear? 200-220? Well, think about it--thats 50-60 extra pounds on your frame that your genetics were not programmed to handle. If you cannot look at training from a health standpoint and stop the abuse, you have a problem. just like any substance, you will be in a dependency/abuse situation. a 27 year old man should be able to bend over and tie his shoes w/o dizziness. your body is telling you something. you want a life, stop the gear.

TweetCorrodo - it's late and I have to get to bed, but I read your first post and I CAN relate. I am a lean 241 as of this morning. My cycle is a bit high on EQ but very, very, low on test and npp (it's almost a joke!). It pales in comparison to some of my other cycles.

I will read the rest of the thread and give you some more feedback when I get to work tomorrow.

I don't think it's necessary to stop all the supps and I think the copious amounts of food would also have something to do with the bigger pictures but again. I'll reply more tomorrow. I have to get up and train in a few hours and I just got home from a 14 hour work day.


Sal

TweetIf this is just a hobby and you don't plan on making a career out of this, then go the healthy route. Arnold looked great and he weighed around 240lbs.