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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/..._iraq_military

Makes me sick! These people have no regard for any of these soldiers lives! Sure they sign up for it, but they sign up to defend our country. Iraq isn't and hasn't attacked our country. These poor soldiers are getting the short end of the stick! People need to start making a big deal about it rather than the usual sit back and do nothing!

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

TweetI just pray everyday that they all come home safe and sound.

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Originally Posted by MeatHead

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

Dude first off I'm posting about it to get other rild up about it. Then I email the link to everyone I know, post bulletins on myspace, and inform as many people as possible. If enough people had a strong enough response we figure out the next step that would get our point across.

Secondly you were brainwashed to believe that the terrorists attacked us. It's not your fault that your brainwashed, the majority of americans are, as was I. You believe what your told, and assume the media is showing you the absolute truth.

Watch this video that again I want to stress is not a anti-Republican or an anti-democrat video. It's pure facts about 9/11. After watching that I'd love for you to tell me with a straight face that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. And if you do take the time to watch it, make sure you pay attention. I can't stand when people play something, don't comprehend it, then say it's bull**** when they don't even know what they are calling bull****.


https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=911+mysteries

The video is 1 hour and 30 minutes. If your a true patriot you can take that much time to learn how much you are being screwed in this country!

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Originally Posted by MeatHead

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

I agree -- so lets just bomb everybody!

BTW there has be NO links of the 9/11 attacks to Iraq. Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

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Originally Posted by Ryker77

I agree -- so lets just bomb everybody!

BTW there has be NO links of the 9/11 attacks to Iraq. Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

That's the interesting part! We are made to believe they came from over there. In doing research they've found that half of the people that were supposedly on the plane are not listed in the U.S. death registry. Now if they are dead why aren't they listed as dead?

Also a few decades ago the american government has now declassified a document (solidground I think you would know the title of it) where they planned on doing some form of government sponsored terrorist attack to make it look like Cuba attacked us, therefore opening us up to be able to invade Cuba.

One of the plans was to get a plan with students to get on a plane and shoot the plane down, then blame it on cuba. They were going to get the students off the plane at some point before they shot it down. Then they would tell the american public that Cuba shot down an american plane with students on it. Remember this isn't a story, or a tale, this is directly from declassified U.S. government documents!

So knowing that, how improbable is it to think that our government made up the stories off all those planes being shot down, and for the two that hit the twin towers control them remotely?

Are you honestly telling me you think a few arabs that flunked flight school new how to fly a 767 with great ability, including sharp turns and a precise hit into a building at high speeds? They weren't even learning how to fly a 767, they were learning how to fly small planes.

Watch the video that I gave a link to and your eyes will slowly open, as mine did. You'll find the questions start to consume you. You'll probably start doing tons of research because you are in absolute disbelief that you've been had, by those that are supposed to protect you. And finally you'll become one of us that tries to inform as many people as possible in hopes that the majority of our country will open their f'n eyes! Power in numbers! If everyone is pissed off and all rally at once, the government will quickly get the picture!

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Originally Posted by Ryker77

Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

Yeah, but there's too much money involved to bomb them, lol!

Tweetthe movie "V for Vendetta" is a perfect example of what are country (and england) are going through right now, as we speak!

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/..._iraq_military

Makes me sick! These people have no regard for any of these soldiers lives! Sure they sign up for it, but they sign up to defend our country. Iraq isn't and hasn't attacked our country. These poor soldiers are getting the short end of the stick! People need to start making a big deal about it rather than the usual sit back and do nothing!

You need to talk to some soldiers about their opinion. I live in a city where we have 5 military instalations, 5. And EVERY soldier I know that has actually been there says we are doing a good thing for those poeple. You have the right to feel how you want, but you obviously haven't talked to the people I have. I personally know 8 guys from church who have all been over there atleast twice. ALL of them say we are doing a good thing and ALL of them are proud to go help those people. I don't think you actually understand the mentality of a soldier bro. This is what they do, they fight for freedom. Did Germany attack us? No. Did Korea attack us? No. Did Italy attack us? No. Did Iraq attack us before the gulf war? No. As a matter of fact, most soldiers who have died in the history of American wars did so fighting for other countries freedoms, not ours. That's what America does, we stick up for those cant stick up for them selves. I think you need to spend some time with some soldiers who have actually been over there and been knee deep in the fight and ask them how they feel. That is if you can ask them and not tell them how they should feel.

By the way, these 8 guys i mention are just the ones I know from church, I've met dozens more who ALL feel the same way. I don't know why you think you need to speak for the soldiers when you have no idea how 'they' feel.

Sure, there are plenty of people who went into the military just to get a fee education, but most do it for what it stands for. And you have to know what they stand for before you can speak for them. One of these guys is one of my best friends here and it breaks my heart for him and his family when he has to go, but he has assured me that he would rather die so those people could have the rights we havethatn do nothing. That's the mentality of a soldier. They would put their life on the live for others before they worried about their own neck. You need to understand that, because I don't think you do. You act as if they are CPA's and shouldn't be put in harms way. They are soldiers, that's what they do, they put themsleves in harms way for other people. It comes with the job and everyone knows it.

Now, I can't tell you how many times I commented on the what I don't like about that war only to be told by those who have actually been there, that I have no idea what I'm talking about. So, I think I'll do the wise thing and not talk about things I don't have first hand knowledge about. Especially when every guy I know that hasbeen there supports the efforts. And if you think they say because they have to, you are wrong. These are private discussions. One dude from church is in the special forces and has been over there 6 times since this started. He's been shot at more than any of the other guys, has a wife and 2 kids and is willing to put himself in that position just so those people can have the rights we have. That's a soldier.

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Originally Posted by angryoldman

I just pray everyday that they all come home safe and sound.

That's what we ALL should do. There is nothing more powerful than prayer. Great point bro!

TweetAnother thing, it amazes me how this country embraced all the soldiers of WWII that fought over in Europe, where no one attacked us. This country, at one point, used to believe in freedom for everyone, now we act as if only WE deserve it. This country was founded by fighters, people who believed in freedom for everyone. Now, the fighters are being breed out by pussies. Pussies who think that we are the only ones that deserve freedom. And that, that make ME sick. To think about all the millions of men who died for the freedom of other countries and ours to end up with a country full of people who could care less about anyone else's freedom, as long as we have ours. That same people who bitc.h about their rights being taking away don't want other people to have those same right. The pansies who want to enjoy all their freedoms but screw the rest of the world. Those people are sorry, sorry ass people who are selfish. How dare someone bitc.h and cry about their rights being taking away and simultaneously act as if other human beings don't deserve those rights? How dare you?

Tweet^^ as you can see, I did not direct that at any one person. It's directed at the continuous hypocritical double standard bull**** that is going on is this country.

TweetOk, I'm calmed down now, so if anything I said was personally offensive to anyone, I appologize. Seriously, it's just how 'I' feel and I don't want to discredit anyone elses feelings, so sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way. It's just one of those things that gets under my skin but at the same time I have to respect how other people feel too.

TweetTmann my best friend is an army reservist and has been to Iraq 4 times now. He loves his job, but says that Iraq is not what you see on TV. He said it's all about the oil, and that soon enough we'll be trying to get into either Syria or Iran. He said that before all of the recent news about Iran.

He also said half of the buildings you see being destroyed on TV are buildings where normal people like you and me live. It's all a show for TV. He said those buildings don't have insurgents in there. But it makes us feel at home like we have a reason to be there by seeing that.

He's not the only one of my friends or family that have said that, that have been to Iraq either! So just because you live in a city where everyone is ready to fall in line and be brainwashed as to what to believe, that's your perogative.

Just because some of us actually try to analyze things before we jump to conclusions doesn't make us pussies as you say. I'll tell you this, if any country tried to invade the U.S. I'll be first in line to fight! But to go fight for oil is ludacris and stupid! I don't see you over their fighting, so calling all of us that aren't fighting or supporting the reason they are fighting is just being plain ignorant!

Another thing you always act as if republicans, and bush and his administration are so golden. That's what you call a follower. Someone that is blinded by what the actual truth is.

Why don't you watch that movie I posted a link about and then I'll talk to you about politics. Until you actually take the time to open your mind and consider the possibility that everything you see on TV or read in the paper might not be true, It's almost pointless to argue with you.

What do you have to lose. If your such a patriot, why don't you take a measley hour and a half to watch a movie to see how your beliefs stand up. Unless of course your afraid you could be wrong!

But I still love ya Tmann, ya naive tool!