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Makes me sick! These people have no regard for any of these soldiers lives! Sure they sign up for it, but they sign up to defend our country. Iraq isn't and hasn't attacked our country. These poor soldiers are getting the short end of the stick! People need to start making a big deal about it rather than the usual sit back and do nothing!

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/..._iraq_military

Makes me sick! These people have no regard for any of these soldiers lives! Sure they sign up for it, but they sign up to defend our country. Iraq isn't and hasn't attacked our country. These poor soldiers are getting the short end of the stick! People need to start making a big deal about it rather than the usual sit back and do nothing!

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

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Originally Posted by MeatHead

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

Dude first off I'm posting about it to get other rild up about it. Then I email the link to everyone I know, post bulletins on myspace, and inform as many people as possible. If enough people had a strong enough response we figure out the next step that would get our point across.

Secondly you were brainwashed to believe that the terrorists attacked us. It's not your fault that your brainwashed, the majority of americans are, as was I. You believe what your told, and assume the media is showing you the absolute truth.

Watch this video that again I want to stress is not a anti-Republican or an anti-democrat video. It's pure facts about 9/11. After watching that I'd love for you to tell me with a straight face that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. And if you do take the time to watch it, make sure you pay attention. I can't stand when people play something, don't comprehend it, then say it's bull**** when they don't even know what they are calling bull****.


https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=911+mysteries

The video is 1 hour and 30 minutes. If your a true patriot you can take that much time to learn how much you are being screwed in this country!

Tweeti watched about 10 min. of the first vid this morning. i didn't have enough time to sit and watch an hour and half video. i am not going to sit here and get into a long winded argument over the war, terrorisim and our foreign policy.

I do not believe we were dooped and it was our government that staged this whole thing. There are countless aspects of our governement that i would change and there are probably a lot of things we have no idea about, but in my opinion, there is no way a scheme of that level could ever be pulled off.

yes, we did go to iraq to clear WMD from them and we have not found the substancial amount our goverment once thought, but we did have a lot of intelligence leading us to believe Sadam did have them hidden. He was was not cooperating with the UN and our government gave him plenty of time to make good on the deals we gave him. Most of the other big countries that make up the UN and did not back us, did not say he didn't have them. they just wanted to take other avenues such as sanctions, versus going over there and useing military force. We gave Saddam plenty of time to open up and let the UN inspect what they wanted to inspect.

I am not too happy with the current situaion in Iraq, so please do not confuse me with some dummy that does not think for himself. I am a conservative, when I do vote, i can not see myself ever voting Democrat for several reasons. I did and still do support the war and our troops, but i do not support the radical spending and very slow progress over the last couple years. There are several reasons why things are not getting done and both sides (US and Iraq) are to blame.

also, Bin Laden and Al Quieda (sp?) immediatly claimed the attacks. do you think that was part of the plan? Like i stated earlier, i only watched about 10 min. of the vid, what do they say about the entire war on terror?

Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

Dude first off I'm posting about it to get other rild up about it. Then I email the link to everyone I know, post bulletins on myspace, and inform as many people as possible. If enough people had a strong enough response we figure out the next step that would get our point across.

Secondly you were brainwashed to believe that the terrorists attacked us. It's not your fault that your brainwashed, the majority of americans are, as was I. You believe what your told, and assume the media is showing you the absolute truth.

Watch this video that again I want to stress is not a anti-Republican or an anti-democrat video. It's pure facts about 9/11. After watching that I'd love for you to tell me with a straight face that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. And if you do take the time to watch it, make sure you pay attention. I can't stand when people play something, don't comprehend it, then say it's bull**** when they don't even know what they are calling bull****.


https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=911+mysteries

The video is 1 hour and 30 minutes. If your a true patriot you can take that much time to learn how much you are being screwed in this country!

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Originally Posted by MeatHead

i watched about 10 min. of the first vid this morning. i didn't have enough time to sit and watch an hour and half video. i am not going to sit here and get into a long winded argument over the war, terrorisim and our foreign policy.

I do not believe we were dooped and it was our government that staged this whole thing. There are countless aspects of our governement that i would change and there are probably a lot of things we have no idea about, but in my opinion, there is no way a scheme of that level could ever be pulled off.


also, Bin Laden and Al Quieda (sp?) immediatly claimed the attacks. do you think that was part of the plan? Like i stated earlier, i only watched about 10 min. of the vid, what do they say about the entire war on terror?

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

DJ, chill out on the Patriotic crap! Just because someone doesn't want to waste 90 minutes watchin some video doesn't give you the right to question their patriotism, got it?

This is the stuff that starts ****. Just because someone doesn't watch a video in no way what so ever measures their loyalty to this country. What if I said you weren't a patriot because you go out of your way to find problems with the government. Would that be true? No! So, stop telling people htye have less patiotism than you because they won't watch your video!

Tweetwatching a show, made by a guy who has no credibility, hardly constitutes as being a patriot.

so, like i asked, what about the terrorists in the middle east that claimed the attacks? are they in on it too? are they really our enemies?

i am done with this argument.

Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

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Originally Posted by MeatHead

What are you doing about it? Afghanistan didn't attack our country either, the terrorists they harbor did. should we wait until people that are an obvious threat attack our innocent before we do something about it?

I agree -- so lets just bomb everybody!

BTW there has be NO links of the 9/11 attacks to Iraq. Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

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Originally Posted by Ryker77

I agree -- so lets just bomb everybody!

BTW there has be NO links of the 9/11 attacks to Iraq. Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

That's the interesting part! We are made to believe they came from over there. In doing research they've found that half of the people that were supposedly on the plane are not listed in the U.S. death registry. Now if they are dead why aren't they listed as dead?

Also a few decades ago the american government has now declassified a document (solidground I think you would know the title of it) where they planned on doing some form of government sponsored terrorist attack to make it look like Cuba attacked us, therefore opening us up to be able to invade Cuba.

One of the plans was to get a plan with students to get on a plane and shoot the plane down, then blame it on cuba. They were going to get the students off the plane at some point before they shot it down. Then they would tell the american public that Cuba shot down an american plane with students on it. Remember this isn't a story, or a tale, this is directly from declassified U.S. government documents!

So knowing that, how improbable is it to think that our government made up the stories off all those planes being shot down, and for the two that hit the twin towers control them remotely?

Are you honestly telling me you think a few arabs that flunked flight school new how to fly a 767 with great ability, including sharp turns and a precise hit into a building at high speeds? They weren't even learning how to fly a 767, they were learning how to fly small planes.

Watch the video that I gave a link to and your eyes will slowly open, as mine did. You'll find the questions start to consume you. You'll probably start doing tons of research because you are in absolute disbelief that you've been had, by those that are supposed to protect you. And finally you'll become one of us that tries to inform as many people as possible in hopes that the majority of our country will open their f'n eyes! Power in numbers! If everyone is pissed off and all rally at once, the government will quickly get the picture!

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Originally Posted by Ryker77

Most of the attackers came from Saudi.

Yeah, but there's too much money involved to bomb them, lol!

TweetI just pray everyday that they all come home safe and sound.

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Originally Posted by angryoldman

I just pray everyday that they all come home safe and sound.

That's what we ALL should do. There is nothing more powerful than prayer. Great point bro!

Tweetthe movie "V for Vendetta" is a perfect example of what are country (and england) are going through right now, as we speak!

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/..._iraq_military

Makes me sick! These people have no regard for any of these soldiers lives! Sure they sign up for it, but they sign up to defend our country. Iraq isn't and hasn't attacked our country. These poor soldiers are getting the short end of the stick! People need to start making a big deal about it rather than the usual sit back and do nothing!

You need to talk to some soldiers about their opinion. I live in a city where we have 5 military instalations, 5. And EVERY soldier I know that has actually been there says we are doing a good thing for those poeple. You have the right to feel how you want, but you obviously haven't talked to the people I have. I personally know 8 guys from church who have all been over there atleast twice. ALL of them say we are doing a good thing and ALL of them are proud to go help those people. I don't think you actually understand the mentality of a soldier bro. This is what they do, they fight for freedom. Did Germany attack us? No. Did Korea attack us? No. Did Italy attack us? No. Did Iraq attack us before the gulf war? No. As a matter of fact, most soldiers who have died in the history of American wars did so fighting for other countries freedoms, not ours. That's what America does, we stick up for those cant stick up for them selves. I think you need to spend some time with some soldiers who have actually been over there and been knee deep in the fight and ask them how they feel. That is if you can ask them and not tell them how they should feel.

By the way, these 8 guys i mention are just the ones I know from church, I've met dozens more who ALL feel the same way. I don't know why you think you need to speak for the soldiers when you have no idea how 'they' feel.

Sure, there are plenty of people who went into the military just to get a fee education, but most do it for what it stands for. And you have to know what they stand for before you can speak for them. One of these guys is one of my best friends here and it breaks my heart for him and his family when he has to go, but he has assured me that he would rather die so those people could have the rights we havethatn do nothing. That's the mentality of a soldier. They would put their life on the live for others before they worried about their own neck. You need to understand that, because I don't think you do. You act as if they are CPA's and shouldn't be put in harms way. They are soldiers, that's what they do, they put themsleves in harms way for other people. It comes with the job and everyone knows it.

Now, I can't tell you how many times I commented on the what I don't like about that war only to be told by those who have actually been there, that I have no idea what I'm talking about. So, I think I'll do the wise thing and not talk about things I don't have first hand knowledge about. Especially when every guy I know that hasbeen there supports the efforts. And if you think they say because they have to, you are wrong. These are private discussions. One dude from church is in the special forces and has been over there 6 times since this started. He's been shot at more than any of the other guys, has a wife and 2 kids and is willing to put himself in that position just so those people can have the rights we have. That's a soldier.

TweetAnother thing, it amazes me how this country embraced all the soldiers of WWII that fought over in Europe, where no one attacked us. This country, at one point, used to believe in freedom for everyone, now we act as if only WE deserve it. This country was founded by fighters, people who believed in freedom for everyone. Now, the fighters are being breed out by pussies. Pussies who think that we are the only ones that deserve freedom. And that, that make ME sick. To think about all the millions of men who died for the freedom of other countries and ours to end up with a country full of people who could care less about anyone else's freedom, as long as we have ours. That same people who bitc.h about their rights being taking away don't want other people to have those same right. The pansies who want to enjoy all their freedoms but screw the rest of the world. Those people are sorry, sorry ass people who are selfish. How dare someone bitc.h and cry about their rights being taking away and simultaneously act as if other human beings don't deserve those rights? How dare you?