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      The movie: https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change

      To tell you the truth, I don't know what to believe these days. I did read this though: (Taken from Popular Mechanics)

      Re plane in pentagon:

      FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

      Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

      The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage....

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      CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

      FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      BTW, the vid is 2hrs long

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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      that's what I've been saying about the plane that hit the pentagon this whole time. The only person who would question why the wings would not tear through iron, brick and concrete are those who have no idea how planes are built. Wings are very very flexible and are tested for their flexibility by bending them upwards after contruction. Some wings are soo flexible that they almost touch above the plane. This is to counter turbulence. If a planes winges were solid iron and welded to the planes fuselage, the plane would literaly vibrate to pieces in turbulence. It's just aeronautical physics.
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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      No big plane hit the pentagon

      Simply put..

      Look what one plane each did to the twin towers.

      Look what one supposed "plane" did to the pentagon.

      That sums it up there. The sheep will always be led blindly.
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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      haha dont get me started again..i dont necessarily believe that the pentagon one was a missle..but i dont understand why there was no marks on the grass if the plane was that low..also any way u look at it when a crime takes place your supposed to leave all evidence in place..they didnt do that at the pentagon or wtc..especially the wtc--everything was immediately sentout on a ship

      its a great video though..alex jones is my idol
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      Quote Originally Posted by solidground
      haha dont get me started again..i dont necessarily believe that the pentagon one was a missle..but i dont understand why there was no marks on the grass if the plane was that low..also any way u look at it when a crime takes place your supposed to leave all evidence in place..they didnt do that at the pentagon or wtc..especially the wtc--everything was immediately sentout on a ship

      its a great video though..alex jones is my idol
      I think they are saying now that it was a small plane that hit the pentagon, not a missle.
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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      Quote Originally Posted by Stout1
      I think they are saying now that it was a small plane that hit the pentagon, not a missle.
      but that brings up the question, where did that plane that supposedly hit the pentagon go?
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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      great thread! i have it burned on DVD. its very interesting to say the least. i showed my dad (very conservative southern baptist) lets just say, he still didn't buy into any of it.

      the argument for the pentagon is a damn good one. the towers, on the other hand, are a little different. whats the deal with the gold that was stored in tower 7? i never got that part.
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      tower 7 was pulled and the owner larry silverstein admitted this..for a buildng to be pulled the correct way it needs at the minumum 1 week to be prepared ..well this was done supposedly in less then 5 hrs? this proves prior knowledge to the wtf explosions
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      I dont think that we will ever really know what happened. It was horrifying events that took place and its really sad to think that our own governemnt might have something to do with it. Alex Jones is a very interesting person. It is a video that people should watch it brings up a lot of questions about our government and the people running it, it would be hard to ignore everything that is said in that video unless people are just to closed minded to think for themselves.

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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      Quote Originally Posted by Stout1
      I think they are saying now that it was a small plane that hit the pentagon, not a missle.
      Oh God, not this again!

      A large plane hit the Pentegon. Fact! Not theory, there is proof, they found the black box, and let's not forget all the people that were on that flight!

      There is also the fact that many people acutally SAW it hit! I work about 10 minutes away and while I didn't personally see it, I have friends that did indeed see it go right over the freeway...

      Not only was the black box found, but many pieces of the plane were found.

      I guess some people really just want to believe conspiracies instead of the logical.

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      logic doesnt add up on 9-11 with the given info...thats why conspiracies are so popular with addition to the fact theres so many shady events that took place on that date and the surounding dates..building 7 to me is the biggest evidence something was fishy
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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      some people will continue to believe what ever is feed to them through media with out ever really analyzing the data for themselves

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      Default Re: "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conpiracy"

      Quote Originally Posted by solidground
      logic doesnt add up on 9-11 with the given info...thats why conspiracies are so popular with addition to the fact theres so many shady events that took place on that date and the surounding dates..building 7 to me is the biggest evidence something was fishy
      That is another one. How did a building that did not get hit by a plane just fall to the ground? Sure wasn't fires.
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      I think its amazing how all the buildings fell straight down and not to one side or another but straight down ....all three

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