Tweetto honest my last buy was a 04 honda pilot and now a days they is not much romm for haggleing... they don't care most foreign car dealers know if you don't buy the next person will... i mean they is always the small "internet price" deals they advertise sometimes... i just know i wrote a check for close to 32k and yes i cried when i saw that number i had written on the line ...but heck i love not haveing car payment