The US court system tends to disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
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The US court system tends to disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
sorry johnny, i still dont believe if they are chritian that they should, or for that matter even, do vote with there religious beliefs. i dont believe you, or any other person i know, follows even there beliefs day to day..let alone polititians. never compromising, never waver...stop. no-way. compairing a gay rep. with a chritian rep is a stretch too i believe. and i do believe you can build your charector seperate from your beliefs. i have chritian friends. two couples witch are good friends of mine and my wifes. both holding the same values both agreeing with eachothers point of views. one, very successful buisness owner, very strong willed, very hard lined. the other couple, chritian rock band. beliefs the same, charector very diff.
I'm saying if you are not being who you are you are putting an other face, that's what hypocrite means and I wasn't calling you one. What I was saying is you want people to become one by not being who they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by edvedr
So it's only okay when it's being discussed, what if the people that brought it up is from a religion? Or is it only when you bring it up or a friend, do you hear what you're saying. In one breath it never okay outside a religious situation, then in the next it's okay if someone that's not religious talks about it or what ever you're trying to say.
Basically it boils down to when you think it's right, but it's not okay for them to exercise their freedom guaranteed in the Constitution. If you don't like what's being said walk away, it's our right not to listen. Now if they're going to chase you down the street yelling at you they are wrong.
People push their views on us all day long, watch TV, it's being done on every program and commercials. your boss pushs his/her view of how it should be done and you can choose to stay there or quit.
JohnnyB
But the Constitution doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by roark
JohnnyB
The constitution too. Even scalia, the supreme court justice who insists on construing the constitution most strictly would disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
so johnny, what branch of the government are you in anyway's..
What does a rock band and a business owner have to do with character? Are you say what you do for employment determines your character? If it is you don't understand what character is and that's why we can't agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by daved150
Character from https://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=character
1. The combination of qualities or features that distinguishes one person, group, or thing from another. See Synonyms at disposition.
2. A distinguishing feature or attribute, as of an individual, group, or category. See Synonyms at quality.
3. Genetics. A structure, function, or attribute determined by a gene or group of genes.
4. Moral or ethical strength.
5. A description of a person's attributes, traits, or abilities.
Are character is how people determine who we are, it doesn't determine what our employment will be, that would be stereotyping.
JohnnyB
You've talked to him about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by roark
JohnnyB
I've read enough of his opinions, interviews, and law review articles to figure it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
LOL good one Bro, but I am not associated with any branch of the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by daved150
JohnnyB
Thats what I thought too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Good to know, but what makes you think that what I believe has anything to do with him?Quote:
Originally Posted by roark
JohnnyB
If you can show me otherwise, I will definitely check it out. Oddly enough though, I do agree with you on a lot of things.
religion is not a huge part of me like it is for you are others. so expressing myself and being myself isn't expressing my religion. i keep it more personal for a couple of reasons. and looking at it in your shoes i see what you mean about not being yourself, wasn't grasping that at first cause its not a big part of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
also i want to say when i say expressing your religion i'm refering to when someone expects or wants someone to take on the same way of thinking. not just saying hey this is my belief. maybe i shouldn't use the word expressing. your right we can walk away, turn the channel, quit the job or whatever. but when the government is trying to govern people of all different backgrounds, religions etc... i don't think the government should look like its backing any religion. i think it should be taken out of the equation completely.
I have to go but I'll be back later, thanks for all the commentary, I love have these types of discussions.
JohnnyB