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Originally Posted by guns01

i have no clue why the doc would completely pull your trt. even with normal test levels you should still be able to use hcg to increase your counts. maybe a little clomid to the mix and see if that pushes up the numbers. probably wont make you feel any better with clomid but getting test level back to normal range should help a little bit. also what jipped said about the thyroid. may need to be adjusted one way or the other. i would find another doc

Hey man, hope your well.

We have been playing with the thyroid hence the mixed now as she says t4 can help with focus and mental clarity and best to mix with t3. I'm on 100t4 am 50 t3 am 50t3 pm, quite high, just changed form 100 t3 am and 75 t3 pm.

As for the trt, the thought is with injection you get too large of spikes and can keep you shut down where as the cream absorbs more slowly/poorly and does not spike as much in turn actually assisting the feedback loop in creating test/sperm etc. My count is visible now, far from high but it is back she may even be pregnant but just went off birth control after we got married in Sept. I am not sure you remember but post show I was on clomid it was messing with me bad, was a decent dose and for awhile, that being said I think it worked as she seemed like she had a miscarriage even on birth control. Maybe a low dose would help just unsure about the mood stuff as that's the main issue I'm trying to fix right now well slowly increasing the sperm count. Once she is pregnant I guess I should give it a few months to be a sure all is ok but will be back on and on for good for sure.
Thanks for the input and any further comments much appreciated.
Cheers and Happy Halloween
Nixx

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Originally Posted by rnixon

Hey man, hope your well.

We have been playing with the thyroid hence the mixed now as she says t4 can help with focus and mental clarity and best to mix with t3. I'm on 100t4 am 50 t3 am 50t3 pm, quite high, just changed form 100 t3 am and 75 t3 pm.

As for the trt, the thought is with injection you get too large of spikes and can keep you shut down where as the cream absorbs more slowly/poorly and does not spike as much in turn actually assisting the feedback loop in creating test/sperm etc. My count is visible now, far from high but it is back she may even be pregnant but just went off birth control after we got married in Sept. I am not sure you remember but post show I was on clomid it was messing with me bad, was a decent dose and for awhile, that being said I think it worked as she seemed like she had a miscarriage even on birth control. Maybe a low dose would help just unsure about the mood stuff as that's the main issue I'm trying to fix right now well slowly increasing the sperm count. Once she is pregnant I guess I should give it a few months to be a sure all is ok but will be back on and on for good for sure.
Thanks for the input and any further comments much appreciated.
Cheers and Happy Halloween
Nixx

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man, the cream causes way way more spikes drops and unsteady levels than injections do. it is a terrible product and especially bad since you have a woman in your house now. if you are worried about spiking and dropping you could go to an ed or eod sched with the goal of maintaining actual normal levels. 4-6-800 with 800 being on the high end. that would keep it from completely shutting you down, not to mention you are using hcg which is further surpressing you anyway. me personally i would have kept the test in and blasted the hcg much higher. doc had a friend of mine do the exact same thing. he was on 200 test c a week and was blasting up to 3000 hcg per week, alongside of clomid. got his numbers pretty high but he still couldnt conceive because of issues with her. keep messing around with stuff and getting numbers checked. you will get there will your not trying haha

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Originally Posted by guns01

man, the cream causes way way more spikes drops and unsteady levels than injections do. it is a terrible product and especially bad since you have a woman in your house now. if you are worried about spiking and dropping you could go to an ed or eod sched with the goal of maintaining actual normal levels. 4-6-800 with 800 being on the high end. that would keep it from completely shutting you down, not to mention you are using hcg which is further surpressing you anyway. me personally i would have kept the test in and blasted the hcg much higher. doc had a friend of mine do the exact same thing. he was on 200 test c a week and was blasting up to 3000 hcg per week, alongside of clomid. got his numbers pretty high but he still couldnt conceive because of issues with her. keep messing around with stuff and getting numbers checked. you will get there will your not trying haha

Ahhh I think you are correct brother, the one naturopath even suggest to take a couple extra pumps of cream if I was going out at night. I don't drink a lot but my wedding night I did a few extra and Pumps and had alcohol, I snapped that night was pissed right off and super emotional. Strangely enough we went out the other night I did and extra 2 pumps of cream before hand had a few drinks. We had ppl at our hose one guy in didn't know and he would leave again emotional snapped kicked shim. Out after holding back as he wouldn't leave and wa super emotional again crying. I was thinking yesterday like youabr Eland the high front he cream and coming down made me. Emotional like when coming off a monster cycle I've been there, it's not mramly text that makes me emotional it's the lake of or high estrogen I think. Anyway I take to the naturopath and mentioned a friend suggested no cream and he said I could do low dose test so I think that will be a change I make very soon. I need me bakc man I cnst vene concentrate at my computer to work and it's affecting my Life big time
Thanks you so much.
Nixx

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Originally Posted by rnixon

Ahhh I think you are correct brother, the one naturopath even suggest to take a couple extra pumps of cream if I was going out at night. I don't drink a lot but my wedding night I did a few extra and Pumps and had alcohol, I snapped that night was pissed right off and super emotional. Strangely enough we went out the other night I did and extra 2 pumps of cream before hand had a few drinks. We had ppl at our hose one guy in didn't know and he would leave again emotional snapped kicked shim. Out after holding back as he wouldn't leave and wa super emotional again crying. I was thinking yesterday like youabr Eland the high front he cream and coming down made me. Emotional like when coming off a monster cycle I've been there, it's not mramly text that makes me emotional it's the lake of or high estrogen I think. Anyway I take to the naturopath and mentioned a friend suggested no cream and he said I could do low dose test so I think that will be a change I make very soon. I need me bakc man I cnst vene concentrate at my computer to work and it's affecting my Life big time
Thanks you so much.
Nixx

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Sorry for the non spell check ugh, sorry 4-6-800 mg per week max? Seems super higher and Your busy was on only 200? Doc suggest 80 2 x week so 160/week.

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