TweetWhat that sucks big time
TweetWtf!? After all his prep and gearing up they pulled his plug?
https://www.doyoueven.com/2015/09/bre...in-mr-olympia/
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TweetWhat that sucks big time
TweetNumber 5 for Phil. No Kai really sucks.
Tweetshould have signed the contract and not played hard ball with the people in charge. going to hurt both him and the sport. dont count out the other guys in being able to beat heath. you never know until game day on who is on and who is off.
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TweetThis does suck but seems to be a lot more to this...
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TweetBodybuilder Kai Greene Banned From the 2015 Mr. Olympia
Editor’s note: What do you think of Kai Greene’s ban? Please leave a comment below and tell us what you think.
Breaking news. Kai “the Predator” Greene will not be allowed to compete in the 2015 Mr. Olympia competition. In a video released last night on Youtube, the top contender for Phil Heath’s crown made the announcement that he was officially banned from competition.
Speculation abounds as to the circumstances behind this shocking story. One inside source claims that Kai Greene’s banning stems from his intention to release his new Dynamik supplement line at the Olympia Expo.
This source stated that Kai Greene asked for a free 20×20 Expo booth and was denied. When he was asked to pay for the booth, a standoff occurred and things escalted. The statements from this source have yet to be verified.
Update 10:44am EST: An updated report has come out stating that Kai Greene did in fact make an attempt to pay for a booth and had never asked for free space. This source is claiming that Kai Greene’s request was denied.
Update 12:17pm EST: Reports are coming in that the ban may be tied to a contractual issue with American Media (AMI), the company that owns Flex Magazine, Muscle & Fitness and Men’s Fitness.
Here is Kai Greene’s official statement, taken from a video he released last evening:
“I’ve got a chance to see a lot of emails and messages and things, talking about that, asking me about that. I just… This is what it looks like when a man is trying to be responsible.
Let me just say that behind the scenes there is just so much more things that are going on than I’m at liberty to share with you. There is a lot more that’s happening, and that is still in the process of happening that I cannot say.
It is a test of my resolve and my sense of personal responsibility to exist here in this moment, in this position, faced with this reality of what will be my inability to participate in the Olympia 2015.
Let me just say that I’ve invested more than 20 years of my life in the belief, the idea, of being able to come to the Olympia and to do my absolute best. Despite whatever the opposition, whatever’s said, whatever the beliefs are on stage, off stage, whatever the oppositionary forces have been.
My resolve has been to respond as a champion and just aim to represent the better thought of what that means to me.
You don’t get this far, you don’t get to this point and just stop. It doesn’t happen like that.
I am not a victim. They are not going to break me. I don’t want to speak negatively to anybody, I don’t want negatively about anything else. Let me just say there’s more going on than I’m able to say.”
Watch the entire official Kai Greene video here:
Marc Lobliner Responds to the Kai Greene Ban
“That’s right. You read the title correctly. Kai Greene, as of today, will not be competing in the Mr. Olympia 2015 in his famed rematch with Phil “the Gift” Heath.
Kai Greene did a video where he said he can’t explain it any more. Now the reason being is that he supposedly missed a registration deadline. There are also some reports of why he missed that.
kai Greene is starting a supplement line and I believe there are partners involved, which means that it’s not like Kai Greene’s going to be sitting in a polo shirt every day at a desk pushing papers. But his name is on the product.
Allegedly Kai Greene’s agent or his people went to the people that run the Olympia, who aren’t necessarily the IFBB. This is a business thing. He went to them and said hey, I’m competing in the Mr. Olympia. They requested a 20×20 booth with no union fees.
Now as someone who exhibits at the Olympia, as someone who’s done it since 2004, basically that’s 4 total spaces at $2500 per space. The union fees, depending on how elaborate the booth is, can be any where from $3000 to $10,000 to $15,000. So allegedly there was a standoff.
This is based on the information we currently have and could be 100% wrong.
Watch the entire video here:
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TweetSucks he won't be competing this year. I was looking forward to watching him on stage. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out.
TweetAaron singerman went online and stated that Kai had in fact tried to buy the spot and was denied. I believe this goes back to. Video I watched by luimarco which showed a lawsuit brought against Kai and Adam Paz by pinnacle back in January. Long story short Adam had worked out a verbal deal with pinnacle for himself and Kai but when the first offer letter came they renigged and pinnacle wanted damages. Out of something like nine charges all but one was denied by a judge. I think this relates to the fact that Gerarde dente was so "hurt" that Adam and Kai were working a back alley deal that he used his influence as a major sponsor with his brands mhp/musclemeds that he pushed for this ban. I also think this was done to protect Heath because the ifbb can't afford another controversial victory. This is all just my opinion which was formulated from what I have seen and my guts interpretations. If him not signing was what was behind him not being allowed to compete I guess I could live with it. The fact he is banned from even the expo must compel you to look for other reasons. I will be interested to see if the truth comes out after this weekend or after whatever gag order is over.
TweetIf anyone read Shawn rays response he claims it is solely due to the not signing but even he admits that serge nubret, Arnold in 1980 and both himself and Kevin leveone had all been allowed to compete last minute without signed contracts. His answer for that is "that it has never happened since" and this rule must be adhered to.
TweetLee preist has been very vocal on this issue and calling for other athletes to boycott the Olympia. While the ideology of it makes sense, I can't see another competitor sacrificing what they have been doing for the last 16weeks to be thrown out the window along with some much needed prize money.
TweetWhatever the placings this year and whoever wins, you know damn well it's going to be some hollow victories for all. Any true competitor will have this eating them up forever. It's like in rocky 5 when Tommy gun wins the title and everyone questions his legitimacy because he never took the title from rocky and he only fought "paper" champs. This is going to end badly no matter what.
TweetHollow victory indeed...especially since the top guy isn't gonna compete!!
Tweetpulled this from another board and it looks like he is pulling himself out and not the other way around:
There is always 2 sides to every story. Guns was right he should of signed the contract. I also saw if he shows up to the competitors meeting before 6 pm today with signed contract he could still compete.
https://www.flexonline.com/ifbb/kai-greene-out-olympia
Flex Staff
September 14, 2015
You’ve probably heard by now and yes, it’s true: Kai Greene is not competing in the 2015 Mr. Olympia. All outward appearances pointed to Greene, the runner-up the past three years, taking another shot at the Sandow. But in an online video released earlier today, Greene said he was “not going to be allowed to compete.” A tearful Greene went on, explaining that, “There’s just more going on behind-the-scenes than I am at liberty to say.” Perplexing, to say the least! Greene gave no concrete reason in his over 9-minute video, so FLEX reached out to Olympia promoter Robin Chang to see if he could shed some light on the Kai situation. Here’s what he had to say.
FLEX: Let’s get right to the point: is Kai Greene banned/prohibited from competing in the 2015 Mr. Olympia?
Robin Chang: Not at all! Kai has had his Olympia contract since April but refused to sign it for reasons known only to Kai. This is the same contract Kai has signed for the past 6 years. Nothing has changed but the dates. If he was banned from competing, why would we send him the contract? I’ve even heard he said he was banned from the expo! Are you kidding me?
FLEX: But from Kai’s video, it seems as if the decision was not his. Rather, the decision was made for him. And it was made recently, just a few days out from the show. There was no indication of this earlier in the year. Was there anything that was said to him that would lead him to believe that he was banned from the contest?
RC: The decision has always been Kai’s. If he REALLY wanted to compete, all he had to do was sign the contract and send it back to us, like he has done the past 6 years. The last time I spoke to Kai was with his manager about a month ago when they inquired about a booth at the Olympia. No indication that he wasn’t going to compete. I haven’t spoken to them since.
FLEX: Once a competitor qualifies for the contest, they have a certain time frame to sign the contract and return it to you, the promoter. And it's the same for all pro contests. Can you give our readers a brief breakdown of the contract procedure?
RC: Under the IFBB Professional League rules, a competitor has up to a week prior to the competitor check-in to sign his contract. The Olympia is a little different because it takes us an entire year to prepare for an event this size, so we ask the competitors to return their contract as early as possible so we can include them in various marketing materials. Without a signed contract, we can’t put a competitor on posters, ads, etc., as it would be misleading to the fans and ticket buyers. And let’s be perfectly clear here, the contract pertains only to the Olympia and competing in the Olympia. It is not binding to the IFBB Professional League as a whole or Jim Manion in any way whatsoever.
FLEX: When the date to return the signed contract passed, was there any follow up?
RC: The deadline was in May, but Kai asked for an extension, as some athletes do for various reasons. I granted Kai the extension so he had until early July. I’ve personally reached out to Kai numerous times, like I do with all qualified competitors, to remind them of the due date. I even reached out to his manager, his girlfriend and his supplement sponsor (at the time) to make sure he was aware of the deadline. I’ve also spoken to Kai on multiple occasions and reminded him that without the signed contract, I can’t put him on the poster or any marketing materials - and he won’t be allowed to compete. At one point, he even sent me a text stating “The contract is already as good as signed, faxed and in your office filing cabinet” but as of this interview, we don’t have a signed contract from Kai.
FLEX: And one day before the athlete check-in, still nothing?
RC: At this time, still nothing. Obviously, we would love to have Kai compete in the Olympia. He’s a great bodybuilder and a fierce competitor, and from a business standpoint it would be foolish for us to ban him. He has a huge fan base because his passion for the sport shines through, but for his own reasons, Kai chose to not sign his contract and not do the show. The decision was solely his, as it is for any and all athletes. While we will miss Kai, the Olympia will go on for the other 183 competitors who earned their way into the Olympia to compete this weekend
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