TweetI don't think it makes a difference if a women is not strong enough or built for it or has the guts. I think it is just common sense. In a big war we lose hundreds and thousands of men. Witch is really fine from a statistical point of view. Not from a mothers of course. There are women back home to have more babies. If we lost hundreds of thousands of women we could risk repopulation. It isn't a question of whether they can handle it or if they are strong enough. It is a question of is it a strategic move? Its not. Throughout history women play an important part in wars they give men hope and reason to come home. Women a very important to a war. Maybe not to fight on the front line. But for sure to support the men while they do. There are very few women that do want to fight. and for those that do more power to them. There are thousands of 18 yo 140 lb dripping wet boys out there that couldn't take a 230lb man out but they try any way. So I don't think women should fight. But not because they cant handle it but because its just not strategic.

TweetLadies y'all know I love y'all but honestly on this one take a seat, being in the combat zone doing admin /logistics. Work? All day every day,being out there ducking bullets and ish hell no!!!!!

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Originally Posted by l.o.t.i28

Ill start the thread off with my own:

Im just going to go ahead and state the obvious here because the truth hurts:

Women dont belong in the field:

reason #1: It is a statistical fact that MOST 'men' if you dare call yourself one, are inclined to want to protect women against harm, we were raised as such, and furthermore it is a subconscious decision as primates. Because of this men are more likely to put themselves at greater risk in the chaotic moment to pull that female out of harms way than he would for a male, because the nitty gritty of it all is that we are less compassionate toward men, we expect that a man can hang ten, we expect that he knows we will get to him when we can, and we expect that he will act like a f*cking man and fight on even if it does look like his luck has just run out.

reason #2: I dont give a f*ck how courageous you are woman!, if you come out into the line of fire to pick my 230lb ass up, NOT INCLUDING OUR GEAR and its weight YOU are going to get yourself killed because unless you are f*cking Dana Lynn Bailey on the battle field NONE of you are strong enough to do so quickly and effectively, HELL a lot of MEN arent strong enough to do so quickly and effectively.

reason 3: Once your high and mighty i wanna be an equal tough girl status catches a f*cking 556 in your ass reason #1 now comes back into play, and now we have three mother f*ckers in the line of fire AND SOMEBODY is going to f*cking die in the process. END OF STORY

reason 4: you wanna be "equal" power to the woman and all that dumb shit, lets start with the physical fitness exam and lets start by having you being expected to do everything the guys do, the same times, the same numbers EVERYTHING, nothing shy of IDENTICAL f*cking standards.

Conclusion: Sit down, and shut the f*ck up. You are a woman, it is the card you were dealt. We are men, it is the card we were dealt, and some might say "we as men are expected, whether we want to or not, to grab our f*cking balls and go fight for our country when needed even if we are scared or dont want to ITS OUR ROLE. So send us some ****ing nudy pics to combat jack to, bake us some f*cking cookies, send your boys a care package and shut the f*ck up with your equality shit and KNOW YOUR F*CKING ROLE. Its not about equality its about killing more of THEM than US.

i concour and i have worked with females on the front line and even during contact. during said contact i seen ones weapon knock her down which i went over and took all of her mags cause i had to fight my way up to one of my wounded guys. i even took the one out of her weapon. she was shooting up in the air also by the way. now that i told that quick story of my personal observation you left out one point:
hygene and infection. i have been up to 5 months without being able to bathe or get new clothing. yes i had changes of clothing and wet wipes but that was it. i dont think that to many women out there can do that without getting very sick due to their bodies ph and bacteria balance. i have even been told that by a woman in charge of the front line chicks. that is why they had to be rotated every 2 wks

TweetThis is deff one they should drop...maybe if they make it through special forces training, but that's not happening

TweetWORST DECISION EVER! if you get pregnant then your unit is down 1 man. u start bleeding what r u gonna do stuff it with a leaf? i mean come the **** on. there justification for this is that woman have been killed in "combat" already ok thats great but putting them on the front lines jesus christ obama is doing everything he canto **** america, spending alll this money, taking away our guns, cutting budget to the military, forcing healthcare on us and now putting woman in cobat and cripling our military. i love woman and i am not sexist but this is one issue i just dont and never will agree on

Tweeteveryone has said pretty much of what i would say, ive been in the field with females and i have been deployed with females and there was so much confilct. I am Artillery and there is no place for females on our gun line.

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Originally Posted by l.o.t.i28

Ill start the thread off with my own:

Im just going to go ahead and state the obvious here because the truth hurts:

Women dont belong in the field:

reason #1: It is a statistical fact that MOST 'men' if you dare call yourself one, are inclined to want to protect women against harm, we were raised as such, and furthermore it is a subconscious decision as primates. Because of this men are more likely to put themselves at greater risk in the chaotic moment to pull that female out of harms way than he would for a male, because the nitty gritty of it all is that we are less compassionate toward men, we expect that a man can hang ten, we expect that he knows we will get to him when we can, and we expect that he will act like a f*cking man and fight on even if it does look like his luck has just run out.

reason #2: I dont give a f*ck how courageous you are woman!, if you come out into the line of fire to pick my 230lb ass up, NOT INCLUDING OUR GEAR and its weight YOU are going to get yourself killed because unless you are f*cking Dana Lynn Bailey on the battle field NONE of you are strong enough to do so quickly and effectively, HELL a lot of MEN arent strong enough to do so quickly and effectively.

reason 3: Once your high and mighty i wanna be an equal tough girl status catches a f*cking 556 in your ass reason #1 now comes back into play, and now we have three mother f*ckers in the line of fire AND SOMEBODY is going to f*cking die in the process. END OF STORY

reason 4: you wanna be "equal" power to the woman and all that dumb shit, lets start with the physical fitness exam and lets start by having you being expected to do everything the guys do, the same times, the same numbers EVERYTHING, nothing shy of IDENTICAL f*cking standards.

Conclusion: Sit down, and shut the f*ck up. You are a woman, it is the card you were dealt. We are men, it is the card we were dealt, and some might say "we as men are expected, whether we want to or not, to grab our f*cking balls and go fight for our country when needed even if we are scared or dont want to ITS OUR ROLE. So send us some ****ing nudy pics to combat jack to, bake us some f*cking cookies, send your boys a care package and shut the f*ck up with your equality shit and KNOW YOUR F*CKING ROLE. Its not about equality its about killing more of THEM than US.

Originally Posted by Heavy Hitter

I don't think it makes a difference if a women is not strong enough or built for it or has the guts. I think it is just common sense. In a big war we lose hundreds and thousands of men. Witch is really fine from a statistical point of view. Not from a mothers of course. There are women back home to have more babies. If we lost hundreds of thousands of women we could risk repopulation. It isn't a question of whether they can handle it or if they are strong enough. It is a question of is it a strategic move? Its not. Throughout history women play an important part in wars they give men hope and reason to come home. Women a very important to a war. Maybe not to fight on the front line. But for sure to support the men while they do. There are very few women that do want to fight. and for those that do more power to them. There are thousands of 18 yo 140 lb dripping wet boys out there that couldn't take a 230lb man out but they try any way. So I don't think women should fight. But not because they cant handle it but because its just not strategic.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE 100% WELL SAID FROM BOTH OF YOU.Great point Heavy Hitter about the population thing.Not many think of that end of it but is cmpletely true.


Plus not only is it about women not being able to hack it,but its also about men naturally wanting to protect a woman.Its just in a guys nature to try and do this so that in itself will make things much more dangerous and throw the entire "TEAM" of their game plan.So even having them there as the distraction that will will inevitably be puts the entire military at risk.

Of course we dont even have to go into the sex aspect of it.Men who are on the front lines fighting next to women?? There is no way anyone can beleive that there wont be FUKING going on!!! Is that what we need on the front lines???

Lifes not fair.War is not fair.So this entire equal rights thing CANNOT be applied to our fighting force.The equal rights movement is cute,and I firmly believe in it but NOT WHEN IM FIGHTIG TO PROTECT OTHER LIVES.

Tweetthis is nothing more than dog n pony show/parade...

people keep talking about men and women equal but until women are scored on the same numbers as the men are then it's NOT close to being equal...also simply passing the minimum isn't enough...most men in combat arms far exceed the minimum...so if women were included and only passing the average scores for a "person" would be lower overall...hell, i had an extremely difficult time making it in my unit being one of the smallest soldiers...many men can't make it...and if women WERE equal then the olympics would only have "Open" events instead of Men/women categories...making our combat arms soldier already weaker...in addition women are routinely pulled from the field for female sanitation (how's that fair or equal?)...and also men don't get raped when captured/hostage...i can't live with knowing our women will be raped by a bunch of sand niggers because someone wanted them to be equal...and the number of sexual harassment claims will dramatically increase...men will no longer be able to be men in the baracks, field, training area, combat zones...no more "locker room humor or talk"...this will effect the esprit de corps dramatically...oh, and the days of "wall to wall" counseling no longer exist...this decision is smoke and mirrors...women will never serve day to day combat offensive operations like the men of the various infantry divisions...yes women serve in frontline combat zones, but they're not out actively doing "hunter-killer" team movements or "move to contact" offenses...

this decision means the us military is only one pair of skinny jeans away from disaster now...the "kinder, gentler military" is gayer, weaker, and the laughing stock of the world now...

again this is only for show and it will NEVER be fully put into effect...only way it would work without endangering our men already there is if there are women only combat arms units...the problem then is the men will always be on alert for as rescue units then...

TweetIf they do ever consider letting them join in combat then they should be held to the same physical training requirements and tests that the men do. You can't risk other people's safety by lowering the standards for others.

Tweetit still won't matter...a 150-200woman isn't ever going to be able to pull a 200lb injured male out of the line of fire equal to the same bodyweight male doing it...

TweetFemale soldiers should be powerlifters , the kind of girls with crew cuts and they talk just like guys, in fact, at first, they even look like guys, they dress like guys and want to be guys, they have more testosterone. They arent even attracted to guys. Almost hermaphroditish. Half man-half woman.I could see that maybe, but for any typical woman to do combat? no freakin way

Tweetdoes the military have combat cook?

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Originally Posted by sofargone561

does the military have combat cook?

hell yeah we do, we were so short handed we had to use cooks and anybody to do our mission lol