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      From https://www.paleodiet.com/definition.htm


      The optimum diet for the human animal based on the nutritional requirements established during its
      evolutionary path to its present form (the modern homo sapiens). The biologically appropriate diet.
      What Is The Paleo Diet?
      Paleo is a simple dietary lifestyle that is based on foods being either in or out. In are the Paleolithic Era foods that we ate prior to agriculture and animal husbandry (meat, fish, shellfish, eggs, tree nuts, vegetables, roots, fruit, berries, mushrooms, etc.). Out are Neolithic Era foods that result from agriculture or animal husbandry (grains, dairy, beans/legumes, potatoes, sugar and fake foods).

      Optimal Foraging Theory says our ancestors mostly ate foods that were easiest to hunt or gather at that specific locale. As nomads we would have adapted to various mixes of foods. Under the paleo concept the quantities consumed of each “in” food is up to the individual. You can make it meat heavy if you want, or more fruit and veggies if you prefer, as long as the foods you eat are paleo. Fruits in the Paleolithic would have been tart and smaller, and you may want to limit modern fruit because of this.

      Acceptable oils should be restricted to those from fruits (olive, oil palm, avocado) or tree nuts (coconut, walnut, almond, hazelnut, pecan, macadamia). No high-tech industrial seed oils could have existed back then. Wild game meat would be the ideal, but grass-fed meat is used as a practical substitute. The grass-fed is needed to get the proper balance of Omega 3 (from green plants) and Omega 6 (from seeds) fatty acids. Organ meats and bone marrow are very paleo. No processed meats. Consumption of fat from grass-fed animals need not be restricted. See Gary Taubes's Good Calories, Bad Calories. Fish should be wild-caught. For everything else organic is preferred, as this is the best we can do to get food free of modern pollutants and with the original micronutrients.

      The effort to collect most seeds would not be as optimal as collecting other foods, unless collected as a condiment for the seed’s taste. Some meaty seeds, like sunflower, may have been a food. To protect their reproductive cycle, plants put anti-nutrients in seed coverings to discourage animal consumption (phytic acid, lectins, and enzyme inhibitors). Fruit seeds are not supposed to be digested, but to pass through and still be viable. They would never have been a food.

      Eat the greatest variety of foods possible. Bush hunters kill whatever they find moving. Foragers note that there are more than 300 edible plants that our ancestors would have known about. Many are leafy greens. A wide range of herbs and spices is encouraged.

      Salt should not be added to food. They did not have salt shakers. After removing added salt from your diet your taste buds will lose the tolerance they developed for salt. The same thing happens after sweetness is removed.

      The only beverage that is truly paleo is water. You need to drink only when you are thirsty. The best is spring water that has been certified to be free of pharmaceuticals, with no chlorine or fluoride added. Buy in large PET bottles. See report on: Pharmaceuticals lurking in U.S. drinking water. If you want caffeine, organic green tea is the most paleo. It is the least processed. Coffee is a seed inside a fruit and is not edible raw. Fruit juice is concentrated fructose that would not have existed and would not be paleo.

      Agave “nectar” is just the marketing name for High Fructose Agave Syrup and it should be avoided. The only paleo sweetener is raw honey, and only in limited quantities. You could argue that very dilute maple syrup is paleo.

      The inclusion of alcohol in the paleo diet is controversial. Our ancestors would have come upon and eaten fermented fruit. Even spurned male butterflies get drunk on fermented fruit. Some have issues with the yeast. In Wild Fermentation (p. 127 in Amazon.com's Look Inside) there is a recipe for spontaneous hard cider that requires no added sugar or yeast. Now the resulting product (6% ABV) does not last long, but it would be paleo! No published paleo diet includes alcohol. But if you are going to drink it, pick one from fermented fruit and water it down to 6%. Another paleo high would have been eating cannabis leaves.

      Paleo foods are nutrient dense. Supplementation would not be needed, and would not be paleo. There is one exception: Vitamin D. At least it should be supplemented for those of us that don’t live outside year round, and don't eat liver regularly. See recommendations at the Vitamin D Council. If you don't eat fish often, fish oil is another way to get Omega 3 fatty acids, though some prefer krill oil.

      Food should be eaten when hungry – not at set times of the day. They hunted and gathered foods in anticipation of, or in response to, hunger pangs.

      This is also called the Caveman Diet, though there is little evidence that many of our ancestors actually lived in caves. Caves with paintings were only visited once a year. The name “Caveman Diet” implies a brutish character that thrived on meat. Stone Age Diet, besides sounding a bit old fashioned, is not correct. The Stone Age also covers part of the Neolithic. Hunter-Gatherer Diet is descriptive, but cumbersome.
      Who is following the diet?
      There are two main groups of followers:

      * The most vocal are the group that follows the paleo diet to get maximum athletic performance and health. Art DeVany was an early proponent of this. Then this group got a big boost with the publication in 2005 of The Paleo Diet for Athletes: A Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic Performance by Loren Cordain and Joe Friel. Then the Crossfit: Forging Elite Fitness organization (with its 1,000 affiliates) picked up on it and incorporated the diet into their program. It is also becoming popular among triathletes.

      * The others are the original group that eat paleo to avoid “foreign proteins” and prevent the diseases of civilization (cardiovascular disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, obesity, arthritis, osteoporosis, acne, gastrointestinal disease, and autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis). See Staffan Lindeberg's Food And Western Disease. Some in this group are already gluten-free being celiacs, and a subset is already dairy-free (e.g. for control of autism spectrum disorders or allergies).

      ------ So, I am thinking about trying this out. I feel like I would really benefit from a diet that doesn't involve a set schedule of when I have to eat. Plus, I like most of the foods on here. Anyone here try this?

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      i'm familiar with it a bit

      i read the pritkin diet book in 1980 and have pretty much followed it my whole life, basically minimum processed foods, no salt or sugar ever, i will say only eating when hungry i tend to push myself to famished stage and then overeat crappy foods so prepping does work better for me and six meals while a pain in the ass to follow i will say i do feel my best

      another thing, dont neccacarily buy calorie numbers for xyz

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      I think this is what Brendan Frasier used when he filmed the movie Encino Man.

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      I use the Paleo diet about 85% of the time with cheat meals mixed in the rest of the time. This diet works great for me and is similar to what most bodybuilders use. Its mainly lean protine and non starch veggies.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lxorl View Post
      I use the Paleo diet about 85% of the time with cheat meals mixed in the rest of the time. This diet works great for me and is similar to what most bodybuilders use. Its mainly lean protine and non starch veggies.
      Doesn't it get boring at times?
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      not really.... when i was doing bodybuilding diet i ate the exact same thing every day. oatmeal for breakfast. a ton of egg whites. canned tuna. chicken and broccoli for dinner. that got old fast. There are good websites with paleo recipes ( The Foodee Project ) is a good one. I also have such good results with it that i am able to cheat more.


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      Thanks for the site. The recipes look great!
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      I also have a ton of energy when i stay on the diet.
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      It really just boils down to healthy eating with out processed foods and starches. I have found that i can cheat some of the principles of the diet. I eat a lot of greek yogurt for the protine and use cream in my coffee (dairy is not part of the diet). i eat some sweet potatoes which is technically not in the diet.
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