Tweeti honestly have no idea of how they would react together. when ever i'm cutting i don't use creatine, makes me hold too much water.
TweetI was wondering would it be okay to use creatine ethyl ester and run clen or ephedrine while on it? I simply want to loose a lil Bodyfat but maintain strength and most of my size...
'Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..."
"The last three to four repetitions are what make the muscles grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
"Don't look at the weight, just lift the shit! Limits are for people who have them."
Tweeti honestly have no idea of how they would react together. when ever i'm cutting i don't use creatine, makes me hold too much water.
TweetCEE doesnt cause water ret...(at least from what I read)
tnert- Why dont u diet instead of take all that shit? Try an ECA stack, but diet should shred you up easy.
Tweeti agree with skar. diet is the key to everything in this game and most people over look that.
TweetYea, i agree.. do it that way.Originally Posted by Skarhead
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TweetI would recommend against iusing both, IMO the ECA could cancel out much of the effects of the creatine (mainly benefit of water retention in the cells)
Cratine brings water around into the cells and has a vasodilation effect. ECA stacks actually cause the body to LOSE water, and have opposite effects to the vasodilation that can occur with creatine.
Think about one of the most major functions that Creatine is doing. lt causes water retention inside the muscle cell. Caffeine/Ephedrine cause frequent urination. So from one side you have to drink more water because of Creatine, but at the same time you have to go to bathroom more and are excreting more water. This could present a case for possible dehydration and muscle cramping, and in the least would be counter productive to the creatine.
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Tweetim doing a clean bulk....i jus dont wanna run only a fat burner and loose all of what ive gained
'Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..."
"The last three to four repetitions are what make the muscles grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
"Don't look at the weight, just lift the shit! Limits are for people who have them."
TweetIt doesn't work that way.Originally Posted by tnert55
Tweetive done it before jus not with creatine in the mix
'Having a pump is like having sex. I train two, sometimes three times a day. Each time I get a pump. It's great. I feel like I'm coming all day..."
"The last three to four repetitions are what make the muscles grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
"Don't look at the weight, just lift the shit! Limits are for people who have them."
TweetIf it worked before, it will probably work again. Just skip the creatine.Originally Posted by tnert55