Nolva for PCT and some other questions

**tnert55** · 08-09-2004, 01:00 PM

I just got done with a 3 week cycle of M1T, and I just wanna make sure my PCT is in order:

Nolva 40mg = week 1
Nolva 30mg = week 2
Nolva 20mg = week 3
Milkthistle = ed as well

When should I take the Nolva? Should I take it all at once, or divide the doses? What would you all recomend?

Oh yea if yall are curious of my results, I gained 10 pounds, lost 1+% Bf. Bench went from 235 to 265. Squat went from 225x6 to 275x6. I got tremendous strength gains, not as much size gains as previous cycles though. My weight is up to 158, and my pants dont fit. theyre too big around the waist. I look a lil leaner you could say.

I was thinking about tryin m5aa and m4ohn, i hear the help harden and increase vascularity. Do you think stacking those two would be about as good as m1t? My strength is pretty good as it is, im looking to get more vascular and just HUGE.

**JsJs24** · 08-09-2004, 02:07 PM

Yuo almost have it perfect but I would do a 4th week 20mg or you could go 10mg ed. Take is once a day at the same time imo. I always take it first thing in the morning with my vitamins. I'm not sure of the half life with M1T but I believe you should start nolv the day after.

**NPursuit** · 08-09-2004, 05:09 PM

I would add another week of Nolva @ 20mg. Also take your Nolva the night of your last M1T dose. Take your Nolva all at once it's halflife is around 7 days, so splitting it up does nothing.

Don't go stacking methyls. You can work multiple methyls into a cycle but not at the same time. M5AA is good for hardening up and strength gains. M40HN is a hit or a miss for most people but can lead to some nice vascularity. Your diet will be the biggest determining factor in reaching your goals, not the drugs you take.

**JsJs24** · 08-09-2004, 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=NPursuit]I would add another week of Nolva @ 20mg.QUOTE]

I think that's what I just said...lol.

**NPursuit** · 08-09-2004, 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=liftforlife]

Originally Posted by NPursuit

I would add another week of Nolva @ 20mg.QUOTE]

I think that's what I just said...lol.

Yup you did. I was just offering my 2 cents.

**JsJs24** · 08-09-2004, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by NPursuit

Yup you did. I was just offering my 2 cents.

J/k around bro. Good advice!

**tnert55** · 08-09-2004, 06:54 PM

so when you say combining two methyls in a cycle would be okay, What type of cycle do you think would be good. I have plenty m1t, as well as m5aa and m4ohn. Tons of nolvedex as well. Oh yea and milk thistle. So what would be a good cycle using these things to get bigger and more vascular and some strength as well?

**NPursuit** · 08-09-2004, 07:50 PM

I would run a 6 week cycle as follows

wk 1-6 1-test/4-AD transdermal
wk 1-2 M1T
Wk 3-6 M4OHN or M5AA

The transdermal will take a few weeks to kick in, so you can kickstart the gains with M1T. Then run M40HN or M5AA to harden you up.

**tnert55** · 08-09-2004, 11:32 PM

would i just use nolva and milk thistle again for PCT? How would the dosing be for that type of cycle?

**NPursuit** · 08-10-2004, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by tnert55

would i just use nolva and milk thistle again for PCT? How would the dosing be for that type of cycle?

I would go with a standard 4 week Nolva dosing, and yes you could and should use Milk Thistle or any other liver supp post cycle.

Dosing is going to depend on your size and experience but I would stay around the following:

Wk 1-6 1-test transdermal 200mg/day
wk 1-6 4-AD transdermal 400mg/day
wk 1-2 M1T oral 5-10mg/day
wk 3-6 M5AA 30-50mg/day
or
wk 3-6 M40HN 10-20mg/day

**FUZO** · 08-11-2004, 12:36 PM

GOOD INFO NPURSUIT.SHOULD COME AROUND MORE OFTEN.

**NPursuit** · 08-11-2004, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by FUZO

GOOD INFO NPURSUIT.SHOULD COME AROUND MORE OFTEN.

Thank ya sir. I'm hear often, I just never make it into any of the other forums besides the supp forum.

**Lich** · 08-11-2004, 05:02 PM

How sure are u about the Nolva having a 7 day halflife?

**NPursuit** · 08-11-2004, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Lich

How sure are u about the Nolva having a 7 day halflife?

Well unless everything thing I have read on it is wrong I'm 100% sure. Do you have some conflicting info?

**FUZO** · 08-11-2004, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by NPursuit

Well unless everything thing I have read on it is wrong I'm 100% sure. Do you have some conflicting info?

NPURSIUT IS RIGHT

https://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/tamox_cp.htm

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In a 3-month crossover steady-state bioavailability study with tamoxifen citrate 10 mg twice a day versus tamoxifen citrate 20 mg given once daily, tamoxifen citrate 20 mg taken once daily has comparable bioavailability to tamoxifen citrate 10 mg taken twice a day...

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