TweetJust buy some VasoPor Ephedrine HCL and caffeine tabs. That'll run you around $13 for a 30-60 day supply. Avoid the aspirin pre workout at all costs.

TweetYes, that would be the absolute cheapest way to go. Whats another product thats got it all? I dont mind spending a little more. Im not looking for high amounts of ephedrine either. Im not concerned with jolting myself with a bunch of it before workouts. Just need a pick-me-up.

TweetI like Labrada's Charge myself, when Im not using the aforementioned stack.

TweetWell if you want an all in one instead of buying them seperate like YJ suggested you could look into LMR's Clen 357. I'm sure you have heard of VPX's Liquid Clenbutrx? Well it's as good as it gets for fat burners/energy boosters, and LMR's is very cheap. You could take it 10-15 minutes before your workout.

Yes taking Vitamin C before your workout is a good idea it helps blunt catabolism.

TweetDymetadrine Xtreme's for me...

2 pills and I'm roaring to go. I feel like I could workout for hours while the stuff is in my system. Just don't plan on having relations with the lady until it's outta your system.

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Originally posted by HeHateMe
Dymetadrine Xtreme's for me...

2 pills and I'm roaring to go. I feel like I could workout for hours while the stuff is in my system. Just don't plan on having relations with the lady until it's outta you system.

That's good stuff too. It's pretty cheap too if I recall.

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Originally posted by NPursuit
That's good stuff too. It's pretty cheap too if I recall.

Yeah it is. I believe it's something like $14 a bottle (100 caps). I LOVE the stuff.

TweetCharge! (Ephedra Free) 120caps by Labrada

Each serving of 2 capsules contains: Pantothenic Acid (Vitamine B5) 200mg Green Tea Leaf Extract (95% polyphenols; catechins 90%; Epigallocatechin gallate EGCG 45%) 200mg Guarana Extract (198mg Caffeine) 550mg Bitter Orange (9mg synephrine) 150mg White Willow Bark Extract (7.5mg salicin) 50mg Ginger Root 10mg Proprietary Charge! Thermoblend (L-Tyrosine, L-Carnitine, Naringin) 375mg

$21 for 60 servings... not bad. Seems the green tea, synephrine, caffeine is about the standard these days with all the anti-ephedra stuff.

TweetYes, I used AST's Dymetadrine Xtreme for a long time. Its pretty potent stuff.

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 100
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Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

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Vitamin B6 5 mg 250%

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Vitamin C 30 mg 50%

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Magnesium (as Magnesium Salicylate) 50 mg 13%

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Ephedra Extract (Standardized for 24 mg ephedrine alkaloids) 300 mg *

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L-Phenylalanine 150 mg *

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L-Tyrosine 150 mg *

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Caffeine (as anhydrous caffeine) 100 mg *

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Yohimbine HCL 2 mg *
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$22

I was trying to get away from so much ephedrine. I started to think maybe it wasnt such a great idea especially when "on". I have never had any trouble but when my heart is racing like that I would sometimes get paranoid. Nothing has compared to that since though. I liked to try and keep my tolerance down. I would only take it on days I worked out. There may be stronger products out there but thats not what I want anyway. Ive seen some posts where people seem to be taking an ass load of pure ephedrine.

TweetYou do cycle off of this stuff correct?

TweetDymetadrine Xtreme is stellar, just difficult to find these days.

TweetI havent for a long time. But I dont take much. When I was taking AST's its like 1 pill 2 days, then off 1, then again 2 days and then off on the weekend. It seems to keep the tolerance from getting too high. I would never use too much of the shit, its like crack lol.

This new Hydroxycut ive been taking is ok. Mainly just a mild effect from the caffeine probably. I dont consume caffeine any other times.

This post isnt a search for a stronger more potent product.

TweetWell I would check out Charge like YJ said, or just buy some caffeine pills if you think that is all you need.