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      NaturalNews) If you have children, you are more than likely already aware of the official U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) "Immunization Schedules," which today recommend an astounding 29 vaccines be given between birth and six years of age, including yearly flu shots, as well as another five to 16 vaccines between ages seven and 18 But a recent investigative report compiled by Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, Ph.D., uncovers more than 30 years of hidden government documents exposing these vaccine schedules as a complete hoax, not to mention the fraud of the vaccines themselves to provide any real protection against disease.

      Though her paper focuses primarily on the British health system's elaborate cover-up of the dirty truth about its own national vaccination program, the tenets of the study's findings still apply to vaccination schedules in general, which are typically designed for the purpose of serving corporate interests rather than public health. Government authorities, it turns out, in an ongoing bid to satisfy the private goals of the vaccine industry, have deliberately covered up pertinent information about the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccines from parents in order to maintain a high rate of vaccination compliance. And in the process, they have put countless millions of children at risk of serious side effects and death.


      Hiding the truth and covering up data to encourage vaccine compliance

      Through several Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, Dr. Tomljenovic was able to obtain transcripts of private meetings that were held between the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization (JCVI), a so-called "independent expert advisory committee" that makes recommendations to the government about vaccine policy, and various British health ministers over the years. And after poring through this plethora of information, which had previously been veiled from public view, Dr. Tomljenovic made some disturbing discoveries.

      "[T]he JCVI (Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization) made continuous efforts to withhold critical data on severe adverse reactions and contraindications to vaccinations to both parents and health practitioners in order to reach overall vaccination rates which they deemed were necessary for 'herd immunity,' a concept which ... does not rest on solid scientific evidence," explains Dr. Tomljenovic in the introduction to her paper.

      "Official documents obtained from the U.K. Department of Health (DH) and the JCVI reveal that the British health authorities have been engaging in such practice for the last 30 years, apparently for the sole purpose of protecting the national vaccination program."

      These are some strong accusations, but the information Dr. Tomljenovic gathered speaks for itself. Not only did the JCVI routinely ignore questions of safety as they came up with regards to the ever-expanding vaccination schedule, but the group actively censored unfavorable data that shed a "negative" light on vaccines in order to maintain the illusion that vaccines are safe and effective. Beyond this, the JCVI regularly lied to both the public and government authorities about vaccine safety in order to ensure that people continued to vaccinate their kids.

      You can access Dr. Tomljenovic's full paper here:
      https://www.ecomed.org.uk/wp-content/...omljenovic.pdf

      JCVI was fully aware of MMR vaccine dangers as early as 1989, but covered them up

      Beginning on page three of her report, Dr. Tomljenovic begins outlining the sordid details of meetings held as early as 1981 where the JCVI clearly engaged in fraud, cover-up, and lies about vaccines to protect the vaccine industry, not children, from harm. Minutes from these meetings reveal that the JCVI actively tried to cover up severe side effects associated with common vaccines like measles and whooping cough (pertussis), both of which were clearly linked at the time to causing severe brain damage in a substantial percentage of the children that received them.

      Of particular concern was how the JCVI handled unfavorable data on the controversial MMR vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella. 10 years before Dr. Andrew Wakefield published his study on MMR in The Lancet, JCVI was already fully aware that the National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) had identified a clear link between MMR and vaccine-induced meningitis and encephalitis. But rather than come forward with this information and call for further safety assessments on the vaccine, the JCVI instead censored this critical information from the public, and blatantly lied about the safety of MMR for years.

      "The extent of the JCVI's concerns with the implications of scientific assessment of vaccine safety on vaccine policy explains why they were opposed to any long-term surveillance for severe neurological disorders following vaccination," writes Dr. Tomljenovic. "[I]nstead of re-evaluating the vaccination policy, at least until safety concerns were fully evaluated, the JCVI chose to support the existing policy based on incomplete evidence that was available at that time."

      In other words, the JCVI was more concerned with protecting the reputation of the dangerous MMR vaccine, as well as many other questionable vaccines, than with protecting children from sustaining serious injuries as a result of getting the jabs. As far as the MMR vaccine is concerned, this critical piece of information not only reinforces the legitimacy of Dr. Wakefield's findings from 10 years later, which were illegitimately declared to be fraudulent by the establishment, but also illustrates just how painfully long this scam has been taking place.

      Vaccine companies urged to manipulate data sheets, skew safety studies to promote vaccines

      If this is not bad enough, Dr. Tomljenovic also drudged up copious amounts of information on the JCVI's longtime habit of encouraging vaccine companies to deliberately alter their data sheets in order to make dangerous and ineffective vaccines appear safe and effective, in accordance with their recommendations. When the JCVI's guidance contraindications for MMR, for instance, did not match those of the vaccine's manufacturer, JCVI apparently instructed the manufacturer to alter its data sheets to avoid "legal problems."

      Similarly, the JCVI's official policy was to cherry-pick unreliable studies to support its own opinions on vaccines rather than rely on independent, scientifically-sound studies to make vaccine policy recommendations. Once again, the JCVI's position on the safety and effectiveness of MMR is an excellent example of this, as the group flat out ignored legitimate MMR studies in favor of industry-backed junk studies like the infamous 2005 Cochrane Review, which technically proves nothing about the alleged safety of MMR because the 31 studies it evaluated did not even meet the group's basic methodological criteria.

      "Over the years, the JCVI has consistently promoted the MMR vaccine as safe, based on studies that have been proven to be either irrelevant, inconclusive, or methodologically questionable," explains Dr. Tomljenovic, adding that the JCVI routinely chose to rely on flawed epidemiological studies that only identified "association" rather than "causation," a rather ironic inaccuracy in light of how scrutinizing the establishment typically is of studies that contradict its own positions.

      The eye-opening, 45-page paper goes on to explain how vaccine schedules were established through the calculated downplaying of vaccine safety concerns and the over-inflating of vaccine benefits; the promotion of dangerous new vaccines into the pediatric schedule through deception; the discouraging of vaccine safety follow-up studies; and the widespread brainwashing of the public through manipulation and scientific sleight-of-hand tricks.

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      Wondered what happened to smallpox and polio.

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      Default Re: Secret government documents reveal vaccines to be a total hoax

      my wife has been saying this since since i met her she refuses to have our daughter vaccinated,................and the little girl has never really been sick

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      its an issue i havnt put much thought into, would i give my child vacinations or not idk anymore to be honest good read thank you

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      ask the generation that saw what polio and small pox did to society what they think about vaccines.

      I was glad my kids got the whooping cough vaccine because 13 kids died in CA last year because of an outbreak that was caused by low vaccination rates.

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      Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
      ask the generation that saw what polio and small pox did to society what they think about vaccines.

      I was glad my kids got the whooping cough vaccine because 13 kids died in CA last year because of an outbreak that was caused by low vaccination rates.

      I think the times are different brother and the reasons for these things have changed.Sure when things first came out yrs ago they were for the right purpose and cause.We're talking many many yrs ago.When the formation of the govt was formed,it was for the best reasons and with the best intentions.FOR THE PEOPLE TO FIGH AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF A CORRUPT GOV'T.Unfortunately times have changed and the corruption has taken control of everything.What was once for the people is now TO CONTROL AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PEOPLE.

      Vaccines are no different IMHO.Developed for the right reasons but now used for thw wrong ones.Im not one to believe that EVERYTHING is bad only that the potential is there and when it comes to greed,nothing is out of the realm of being possible.I am one though for taking anything that the govt says as bullshit and until I research any given thing to its fullest do I form an opinion on it.I will never blindly trust in a system that has becomes un-trustworthy and have proven this time and again.

      Remember "CONSIRACY THEORIES" have to start with some element of truth to them and although many put their own ideals and beliefs into thse theories,the basis for the theory is still there for some reason.As with anything,one needs to research them as far as possible and come to their own conclusions as to what is true and b/s.

      I go by the old Sherlock Holmes motto of................. " Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."


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      Quote Originally Posted by F.I.S.T. View Post
      I think the times are different brother and the reasons for these things have changed.Sure when things first came out yrs ago they were for the right purpose and cause.We're talking many many yrs ago.When the formation of the govt was formed,it was for the best reasons and with the best intentions.FOR THE PEOPLE TO FIGH AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF A CORRUPT GOV'T.Unfortunately times have changed and the corruption has taken control of everything.What was once for the people is now TO CONTROL AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PEOPLE.

      Vaccines are no different IMHO.Developed for the right reasons but now used for thw wrong ones.Im not one to believe that EVERYTHING is bad only that the potential is there and when it comes to greed,nothing is out of the realm of being possible.I am one though for taking anything that the govt says as bullshit and until I research any given thing to its fullest do I form an opinion on it.I will never blindly trust in a system that has becomes un-trustworthy and have proven this time and again.

      Remember "CONSIRACY THEORIES" have to start with some element of truth to them and although many put their own ideals and beliefs into thse theories,the basis for the theory is still there for some reason.As with anything,one needs to research them as far as possible and come to their own conclusions as to what is true and b/s.

      I go by the old Sherlock Holmes motto of................. " Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

      the article title is that vaccines are a total hoax, yet they don't explain why we have eradicated horrible diseases through the use of vaccines, and we continue to keep them away. It's careless journalism and not science to title it that way.

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      Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
      ask the generation that saw what polio and small pox did to society what they think about vaccines.

      I was glad my kids got the whooping cough vaccine because 13 kids died in CA last year because of an outbreak that was caused by low vaccination rates.
      Good point. We did get vaccines for our daughter too. I didn't think twice about that. Haven't gotten the flu shot though
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      Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
      the article title is that vaccines are a total hoax, yet they don't explain why we have eradicated horrible diseases through the use of vaccines, and we continue to keep them away. It's careless journalism and not science to title it that way.

      You're right about the title.I dont beleive its a complete hoax but I do feel there are way too many vaccines that we are supposed to get.

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      Quote Originally Posted by baby1 View Post
      Good point. We did get vaccines for our daughter too. I didn't think twice about that. Haven't gotten the flu shot though
      I specifically didn't get the flu shot for my family either. Mostly because my kids aren't infants and I don't work w the elderly anymore.
      My wife who is an RN will get one because the population she works w is vulnerable.

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      Each vaccines has its successes and dubious benefits and research questions I agree. We can't paint the brush on all vaccines though.

      The diptheria vaccine is a phenomenol success. 20% of children who got diptheria used to strangle to death ( due to pseudomembrane formation that clogs up the breathing tubes). In Romania, they have completely eliminated toxigenic strain of corynebacterium that makes the diptheria toxin. ( thanks to evolutionary medicine that targest the toxigenic strain of the corynebacterium without harming the benign corynebacterium). IT doesn't exist anymore in that country! but they were able to do 100% vaccination rate, unlike our country. We use the same technique to target the toxigenic strain of H. Influenza, which used to be a major cause of childhood meningitis and it has all but disappeared.

      The tetnus vaccine is a phenomenol success. We see almost no deaths due to this painful, agonizing means of dying in 1st world countries. To see it in 3rd world countries, patients whose heels and top of the head are the only two areas touching the bed as their muscles tighten into one big muscle cramp is so painful to watch, it brings tears to your eyes.

      The gardisil is controversal because in 1st world countries where women have access to yearly pap smears, women are less likely to die from cervical cancer anyway. So the benefit of preventing mortality is questionable Also, women younger than 30 years of age who have been exposed to HPV, have a high liklihood of clearing it spontaneously. However, this anticervical/anti gential warts vaccine, clearly affects mortality in 3rd world countries where girls are subject to rapes, early marriage etc. without any access for yearly pap smears!

      Anyway, this lecture takes a whole friggin week to begin to cover but I wanted to show how we can't paint all vaccines as a wash. Yes there are sideeffects to vaccines, yes some may not be necessary anymore, yes there are some whose benefits are inflated ( like the Gardisil).

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      As for the MMR vaccine, I have to agree it has the most sideeffects. In fact, his paper really has the most problem with that vaccine, I don't see him hitting on things like the tetnus and diptheria ...

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      Let's not forget the one vaccine that has 100% success rate.... rabies vaccine. It has always prevented develpment of rabies ( which has 100% mortality) in humans who have had exposure to known rabies carrying animal and their bites ( 100% transmission rate by the way).......( It has to be done at onset of bite of course....).

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      Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
      Let's not forget the one vaccine that has 100% success rate.... rabies vaccine. It has always prevented develpment of rabies ( which has 100% mortality) in humans who have had exposure to known rabies carrying animal and their bites ( 100% transmission rate by the way).......( It has to be done at onset of bite of course....).

      Good point.There are defnitely some vaccines that are needed.The question at hand is "ARE THEY ALL"?

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      exactly! For instance, the Nisseria meningitis vaccine recommended for entering college students.... I don't give to my incoming freshmen. I tell them it only protects against half the serotypes that cause meningitis, and not the other half that do! If they want it, I give it to them, and I give them information on it's sideeffects, but I do not encourage it at all. Same with gardisil, some girls have died, it doesn't really protect against mortality in a 1st world country ( only if they are moving to a 3rd world country without access to pap smears...ie: a Peace COrps volunteer, do I recommend it). I do recommend it to my HIV positive females and males. IN the HIV positive males, it prevents the HPV induced rectal carcinoma that is rampant in that population. ( for the record, our HIV treatment is so good a person diagnosed at 16 with HIV can live to 65 with the new regimes that completely suppress viral load in their serum). IN 20 years of practice, most of my HIV positive patients are living healthy, normal lives without progression to AIDS ( of course, these are the ones with health insurance that pays for the $1200 dollar a month suppressive regime.)

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