TweetDoes it really matter what a person weighs? Diggler, you did the same exact thing to me a while back and I didnt think I deserved it. After your assumptions that I weighed less than I posted, I posted other pics and you took back your comment. Not to be a jerk, but do you have something against guys that weight more than you? I just really dont think its needed around here. I think its awesome that we're all on a fitness board trying to be healthy and treat our bodies good unlike most lazy, fat slobs in America. The last thing that someone needs trying to get back into shape is to be discouraged by guys he's trusting enough to show pics to.

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Originally Posted by crombie09

Does it really matter what a person weighs? Diggler, you did the same exact thing to me a while back and I didnt think I deserved it. After your assumptions that I weighed less than I posted, I posted other pics and you took back your comment. Not to be a jerk, but do you have something against guys that weight more than you? I just really dont think its needed around here. I think its awesome that we're all on a fitness board trying to be healthy and treat our bodies good unlike most lazy, fat slobs in America. The last thing that someone needs trying to get back into shape is to be discouraged by guys he's trusting enough to show pics to.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone bro.

People used to call me 'Blade' at the gym because they said when I turned sideways, I'd disappear. Did it piss me off? Sure! But I'll tell you that fueled my fire so much, that I busted my ars to be able to walk in front of them years later and show them I'm not a twig anymore. So in all essence it ended up helping me better myself.

Society these days expects everyone to kiss each others asses and lie to people about things. I don't expect people to lie to me. There's been times I posted pics and people would say "you have a good base". Yeah that's what I wanted to hear after 4 years in the gym (note the sarcasm). But I used it to fuel my workouts and give me reason to keep at it. You can't whine and sit in the corner because you don't like what you hear. Turn a negative into a positive.

Also for you crombie I didn't feel like your first pics made you look like your weight. If you don't like opinions, don't post pics. I corrected myself when I saw different pics. I'm not trying to offend you by saying that, I'm saying what I think. You might not care what I think, but when you post pics on a board your basically asking for opinions, so that's what you got!

If one of my friends has a polka dot shirt and says "dude I bought this awesome shirt, I'm going to have to beat the chicks away with a stick with this baby on". Am I supposed to agree and let him go on with his false perceptions? Or should I be a good friend and be like "That shirt is hideous, and I don't think you could even pick up a prostitute with that thing on!"

Many of my buds had no clue how to dress and I helped them with their poor notion of style. They used to get so offended when I picked on them. Now they get so much poo cee they have to beat the chicks away. Point is I gave an opinion to help out a friend. You might not like what you hear, but that is your choice whether you listen to it, or ignore it. But it's my right to voice my opinion.

Plus I've always tried to also point out positive accomplishments with any negative comments I make. They teach you in counseling that you don't only point out negatives, you also point out a positive with a negative. Then you are bringing up constructive criticism which might offend the person, while making them also feel good about something they have accomplished, so they don't feel like they've been working hard for nothing. Most people that make negative comments don't follow it with a positive. I do because my intentions are good, and I try to look at both sides.

Also I'd like to note if someone said I don't look like what I weigh, I would've took a pic of the scale. No big deal. I wouldn't flip about it.

And to Scalley and Byron my apologies if you were offended. Those were not my intentions. However scalley I flamed you only to give you a taste of what you gave me. Two wrongs don't make a right and I apologize for that. Also I posted my flame, hit submit, and then it showed your apology. So it was to late for me to take back what I said. I hope this clears everything up.

TweetJust for the record I have no clue as to how either of my first two post could be considered a "flame". You took it to the level of calling me ignorant followed by the post ladden with ghey comments and questioning the size of my penis. I did apologize for the pee-wee comment because that was in bad taste and I will also apologize if you took my posts as me "flamining" you. I just wanted to point out that positive criticism is helpful (which you did give) but the first paragraph of your post could not be used in any helpful way. It was viewed by many as a shot at Byron (which I don't have a man crush on because he is not quite as hot as my wife) whom from what I have seen has never been anything but a cool guy to everyone.

Once again I apologize for my part in that and from my end I consider this issue dead.

I hope you have a wonderful birthday Diggler.

Tweet*#@%$! error measages, I can't even view page 3


anyway I totally belive he is 235 because when I was 235 (im 6' tall) I looked very close to that. its hard for taller guys with big bones to look huge, id have to be 300lbs to look as large as I like.

but bryon, you got a decent base, the only thing you lack is time in the game. give it a couple years and see the progress you will have made. you just got to stick with it.

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Originally Posted by Scalleywag

Just for the record I have no clue as to how either of my first two post could be considered a "flame". You took it to the level of calling me ignorant followed by the post ladden with ghey comments and questioning the size of my penis. I did apologize for the pee-wee comment because that was in bad taste and I will also apologize if you took my posts as me "flamining" you. I just wanted to point out that positive criticism is helpful (which you did give) but the first paragraph of your post could not be used in any helpful way. It was viewed by many as a shot at Byron (which I don't have a man crush on because he is not quite as hot as my wife) whom from what I have seen has never been anything but a cool guy to everyone.

Once again I apologize for my part in that and from my end I consider this issue dead.

I hope you have a wonderful birthday Diggler.

Thank you, and the only thing I saw as a flame was the fact that I felt you were trying to knit pick my comments to make me seem like an ahole. If you read my above reasoning there should be absolutely no question as to why I wrote what I wrote. So when you basically said I was an ahole I made the intelligence comment. Then you called me pee wee so again I flamed you back. But after I posted I then realized that you apologized. So at that point it was to late so I gave you a canned apology like I felt you gave to me. I say let bygones be bygones and I have no hard feelings. That's the joy of being men, we can beat each other up, and have a beer the next day. So now that we're done being toolbags to each other lets be done.

TweetI like both of you bastards so its nice to see the love again..lol Honestly guys when I first got to the boards the same guys I hated ended up being the ones Im closest to now...Good for you guys to man up and apologize, shows character!

TweetI'm just glad scalley took my place in the diggler debates! LOL

Look, we ALL have some form of predisposed idea of what someone should look like at a certain height or weight. Well, we are ALL wrong. There is no standard. There are too many factors involved like, bone density, muscle density (are they more water, or actualy tissue), frame (small or large), and others.

Most people believe my weights when they see me because I have a wide frame and it allows me to pack on weight, but in actuality, I have several muscles that aren't as big as they should be for my weight. On the flip side, on of my bros has a much smaller frame and is two inches shorter than me and there was a time when we were both in the 230's and I completely dwarfed him, in clothes that is. In clothes, I looked like I out weighed him by an easy 30-40 pounds. But, with the shirts off, you could easily tell he was right there with me. Because of his smaller frame and shorter height, his muscle bellies were much larger than mine, and still are (bastard). He has since dieted al the way down to the 190's (he like 5% right now) and he still has huge muscle bellies. He looks pretty small in clothes, but if you were to see him with his shirt off, you would think he was easily in his 220's. Seriously, he just has these very thick fully developed bellies in every muscle. He's a genetic freak, and natty. And yes, I know for sure, he's one of my best friends and we've even talked about it. He's had a serious liver issue since he was a kid and have never been able to take anything. He can't even drink a couple beers without suffering from it. Also, I've met 3 of his 4 brothers and they are all built just alike AND two of them didn't even lift weights. Just a whole family of genetic freaks. Even his dad in his 60's looks like he lifts weights regularly, but never has lifted a weight in his life, ever.

So, what I'm getting at is, there are too many factors to know whether someone weighs what you think. From most photos of me, my biceps would have people thinking BS on my weight, but when they see my thighs or me standing next to someone and they can see just how wide my frame really is, then it's like 'oh, ok, I see it now'.

I've got another bro who if you looked at his legs you would think he was like the 190's. But, when you see his upper body, you can deffinately see where the 220's come from. He's got very good genetics in the upper body and poor ones for the lower body. We've trained together off and on for a few years and he just can't grow legs and I just can't grow biceps, or arms at all compared to this guy.

Ok, I've gotten off the topic and began to talk about my favorite subject, 'ME'. LOL

Tweetdiggler debates. HAHAHAHAH! Good thing I wasn't eating cheerios or one would have come up my nose!

Tweetwell, i'm glad things got civil there towards the end...

look, we all know that dj always says that whoever posts their pics doesn't look like they weigh what they claim to. no big deal...

from now on, post a pic of the scale too. problem solved. you may wan to try and include your feet in the pic too so he won't claim you had a rock on there too lol.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

well, i'm glad things got civil there towards the end...

look, we all know that dj always says that whoever posts their pics doesn't look like they weigh what they claim to. no big deal...

from now on, post a pic of the scale too. problem solved. you may wan to try and include your feet in the pic too so he won't claim you had a rock on there too lol.

Yeah good call. Because people aren't allowed to have opinions without being ridiculous! Plus real funny how I've made two comments calling people on their weight the whole time I've been on this board, and now you say I always claim people don't look like what they weigh. Way to overexaggerate and try to start another fight. I thought mods were supposed to subside fights not drag them on. This was a finished subject and you had to try to start it up again. Excuse me for actually being honest with people. Atleast people know when I talk I tell it how it is, and I don't lie to them.

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

Yeah good call. Because people aren't allowed to have opinions without being ridiculous! Plus real funny how I've made two comments calling people on their weight the whole time I've been on this board, and now you say I always claim people don't look like what they weigh. Way to overexaggerate and try to start another fight. I thought mods were supposed to subside fights not drag them on. This was a finished subject and you had to try to start it up again. Excuse me for actually being honest with people. Atleast people know when I talk I tell it how it is, and I don't lie to them.

Hey DJ, what you got going on tonight bro?? You just chilling or hitting the gym or what?? What about the weather where your at, its sunny here and also my but hurts today cause of that dam tren and prop and I need to take a nap...so anyways just seeing what your up to brotha!!!

PS- DJ let my pic slide and believed my weight and actaully had a good convo with him about stuff, so I wouldnt say he ALWAYS calls people out...BUT its just MY OPINION!!

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Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

Yeah good call. Because people aren't allowed to have opinions without being ridiculous! Plus real funny how I've made two comments calling people on their weight the whole time I've been on this board, and now you say I always claim people don't look like what they weigh. Way to overexaggerate and try to start another fight. I thought mods were supposed to subside fights not drag them on. This was a finished subject and you had to try to start it up again. Excuse me for actually being honest with people. Atleast people know when I talk I tell it how it is, and I don't lie to them.

umm, it was meant to be a joke, so chill the **** out eh?

i respect folks who tell it like it is, and i will always protect their right to do so as a mod.

i think you may have misundertood my intentions dj.

remember, it's just the internet.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

umm, it was meant to be a joke, so chill the **** out eh?

i respect folks who tell it like it is, and i will always protect their right to do so as a mod.

i think you may have misundertood my intentions dj.

remember, it's just the internet.

Sorry brother I've just got a little defensive because a few people have been flipping out because I tell it like I see it. So I thought it was another shot at me because I'm a straight shooter. It's all good man!