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Originally Posted by Iron_Gook

Thanks brutha... I cut my carbs by 1200 every day except on occasion - if I have hard leg or back workout - I'll go until 1430 with carbs but then it's only protein and fats... those areas you mentioned (low abs, back) are extremely resistant to any dieting manipulation on my part. It truly is the last to go and I have yet to experience it... I'll give the added vitamin C a go and report back within the next week. I've also incorporated a 4oz shot of apple cider vinegar in the evening to help...

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4oz! Holy shiat. I take 2 oz a day plus 3000mg of the apple cider vinager pills. I also just ordered some of this stuff called Stimulant X. Do a search on it, the reviews for it are really really good. I got some from a site for $24 for 90 caps and most do 2 caps a day some can handle 3-4. I'll let you guys know how it works.

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Originally Posted by crombie09

4oz! Holy shiat. I take 2 oz a day plus 3000mg of the apple cider vinager pills. I also just ordered some of this stuff called Stimulant X. Do a search on it, the reviews for it are really really good. I got some from a site for $24 for 90 caps and most do 2 caps a day some can handle 3-4. I'll let you guys know how it works.

Been thinking about going on clen in hopes of getting those final pounds off...

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