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Originally Posted by Skarhead

- would think the tapering might help me recover better.
- That should be enough if not I can always bump it, i homebrewed enough

- prolly not
- serious question - I've never run it, but.....just checked it out, never mind, 300-500/wk is plenty.

TweetGood luck Skarhead! Looking forward to reading your progress

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Im currently weighing at 198 lbs... So a few lbs of water so far... not that much strength gain. I expect things to start taking off in a week or two

I started taking two more supplements... B-complex and Amino Acids... both which i think are very important supps...

No real significant strength gains at all

I am 85% sure im going to add winstrol for 8 wks at the end of this cycle for more strength and hardness

TweetActually it looks good as is too me Skar. FYI, im sure you know the Red Yeast Rice is very good at lowering the bad cholesterol. I always use it, even off cycle at 600mg twice ed one in morn and one in evening. I also take the saw palmetto for the prostate, very important and Glutathione, or its precurser NAC for cell recovery and helps in spermatoza in the testes. BTW, how are you running the Masteron?? I have been informed three times ew @ 100mg. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by mick-G

Actually it looks good as is too me Skar. FYI, im sure you know the Red Yeast Rice is very good at lowering the bad cholesterol. I always use it, even off cycle at 600mg twice ed one in morn and one in evening. I also take the saw palmetto for the prostate, very important and Glutathione, or its precurser NAC for cell recovery and helps in spermatoza in the testes. BTW, how are you running the Masteron?? I have been informed three times ew @ 100mg. Good luck!

Im running it 300 mg e/w ... masteron E... its actually a few mgs higher than that... more like 310 b/c i messed up the conversion (no surprise) but its around there ..

TweetThe long half life of the enanthate means that it tapers itself. No need to decrease the dosages. I am not sure what the half life of masteron is, but I assume it is about the same since the ester is the same.

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Originally Posted by HungarianBeast

The long half life of the enanthate means that it tapers itself. No need to decrease the dosages. I am not sure what the half life of masteron is, but I assume it is about the same since the ester is the same.

Yeah, all in all thats what I concluded too so im just going to run the same dosage throughout, increase it if I think it's too little but 95% chance i think it's good. the half life is the same bc its enanthate ester

Tweetlike the journal skar. keep it up! i have a feelin you'll re-introduce the slin in a few weeks.

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Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge

like the journal skar. keep it up! i have a feelin you'll re-introduce the slin in a few weeks.

Lol, i had a feeling of that too

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Originally Posted by ssgeek

Questions, bro:

- why taper? I don't see what it's going to do for you

gonna help him out to recover faster and he wouldn't shock his body when he gets off 450 or 650 depending on him......

after the first couple of shoots 450 or 650(depending on what's he is doing ) the bosdy is used to get teh same amount of test that he is injecting and his test level is supressed big time so when he tapers back down the body is getting 2 used the amount that he is injecting so when he gets off he will recover faster...
example: it's better to get off 750 to 500 and 250 (for 2-3 weeks) and then off complety COMPARING to 750 mg and then nothing off cycle...

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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE1979

gonna help him out to recover faster and he wouldn't shock his body when he gets off 450 or 650 depending on him......

after the first couple of shoots 450 or 650(depending on what's he is doing ) the bosdy is used to get teh same amount of test that he is injecting and his test level is supressed big time so when he tapers back down the body is getting 2 used the amount that he is injecting so when he gets off he will recover faster...
example: it's better to get off 750 to 500 and 250 (for 2-3 weeks) and then off complety COMPARING to 750 mg and then nothing off cycle...

With the half life of 2-2.5 weeks, it tapers its self when you do your last injection. A "half life" is an exponential decay curve. That means: you inject 1000mg of "enanthate". In 2 weeks, 500mg of enanthate has yet to be metabolized. The other 500mg, the ester has been broken off and the test introduced into the bloodstream. In 4 weeks, there is 250mg of enanthate still left, and 750mg has had the ester broken off and used in the bloodstream. Etc... If you calculate a definite integral over a specified time using the exponential decay curve, you find the sum of the compound that has had the ester broken off and used in the bloodstream as free test (minus the molecular weight of the ester...). Every time you inject, you are adding to the amount in the body that had NOT had the ester broken off. This is the "accumilation" effect. When you stop injecting, your calculation of the half life is performed on the total ACCUMILATED amount. This ammount is actually fairly large when using long acting esters.

Tweetthis is why, instead of just coming off the test, and instead of tapering it, i run prop for the 2 weeks while waiting to stop the PCT. You can drop the dosage, and its outta your system in 3 days and bam, u start your pct.

if it were me, id do:

week 13 75mg eod
week 14 - 100eod
week 15 125eod

That way your keeping your levels fairly constant and its decreasing from 650, to about 500.