Thanks for the reply bro. I was thinking the same thing. People are always looking for a quick fix for there problems by taking shortcuts. He used to put his time in so I gave him the benefit of believing he was doing all he could w/out the help of an extreme diet pill. We all no there's no shortcuts, you have to put your time in to get the types of results most of us here achieve. I'm going to have to remind him of this. Once I see he's putting the time in, I'll help him out but no pill is going to solve his problems, he's gotta do the work first!