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What about insulin and t3 t4, worth it or not

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if you are planning on running the gh long term then absolutely need them. then again since you dont experience the same issues as most do with a lot of compounds then maybe not. at 1-3iu per day you can pull labs with thyroid and see if they are trending down. then dose dependent on the t3 or t4. like my other post normally all you need is 25mcg of t3 and or 200mcg of t4. what i have found with most is that the 25mcg of t3 will put both t4 and t3 back in range. the slin i laid out in the other thread but just like with the thyroid you can do labs or do what i do and use a glucose meter and check it multiple times per day including fasted. if you see it getting up into the 90s or low 100s then the slin has to go in.

again for those that are reading this thinking that it is a dieting or off season protocol it is not. gh will do 2 things to you when used properly. 1- it drives your thryoid into the gutter which is why we have to put in t3 or t4 to keep us in normal range. 2- insulin resistance and this happens even in a strict def with little to no sugar intake. it still happens, so to help with this we add in either some log or lantius to help keep everything running properly and smoothly. pretty much enough to keep us insulin sensitive and no metformin doesnt achieve this and it has been tried multiple times including by myself and it didnt do dick