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Originally Posted by pgc640

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all have their place, used appropriately. if your goal is mass with the gh why are you thinking about t3 and t4? t3 will eat up muscle if you aren't using a potent androgen with it.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg

all have their place, used appropriately. if your goal is mass with the gh why are you thinking about t3 and t4? t3 will eat up muscle if you aren't using a potent androgen with it.

T3 will only eat muscle when used incorrectly, at too high a dose for the individual using it.
Do not mean to contradict you but you are right in that yes it can but only if you are clueless.

T3 t4 with GH, ITS been so long it's hard for me to remember this scientific BS. Guns would know I'm sure.

T3 is not used with Gh necessarily to burn fat. The reason it's used is because GH affects the thyroid, again I don't know the exact science.


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Originally Posted by BigDawg

all have their place, used appropriately. if your goal is mass with the gh why are you thinking about t3 and t4? t3 will eat up muscle if you aren't using a potent androgen with it.

My goal isn't mass BTW I'm 50 years old. My competitive days ended in 2001. I really don't need to get bigger. I'm using or want to use the GH for it's effect on injuries I've built up over 30+ years of lifting heavy weights.

Feels like my body is breaking down sometimes.

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Originally Posted by pgc640

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if you are planning on running the gh long term then absolutely need them. then again since you dont experience the same issues as most do with a lot of compounds then maybe not. at 1-3iu per day you can pull labs with thyroid and see if they are trending down. then dose dependent on the t3 or t4. like my other post normally all you need is 25mcg of t3 and or 200mcg of t4. what i have found with most is that the 25mcg of t3 will put both t4 and t3 back in range. the slin i laid out in the other thread but just like with the thyroid you can do labs or do what i do and use a glucose meter and check it multiple times per day including fasted. if you see it getting up into the 90s or low 100s then the slin has to go in.

again for those that are reading this thinking that it is a dieting or off season protocol it is not. gh will do 2 things to you when used properly. 1- it drives your thryoid into the gutter which is why we have to put in t3 or t4 to keep us in normal range. 2- insulin resistance and this happens even in a strict def with little to no sugar intake. it still happens, so to help with this we add in either some log or lantius to help keep everything running properly and smoothly. pretty much enough to keep us insulin sensitive and no metformin doesnt achieve this and it has been tried multiple times including by myself and it didnt do dick