I used Log for months but I kept it cold the whole time...and I know it was good still because I could feel the effects (hypo, etc) when I didn't consume as many carbs as I should've
Printable View
I used Log for months but I kept it cold the whole time...and I know it was good still because I could feel the effects (hypo, etc) when I didn't consume as many carbs as I should've
This is turning into a great thread! Anybody with experience, tips/advice, or questions? In fact, it really has me researching Metformin now...
I just ordered some Humalog today from a canadian pharmacy website..I think its the same one I have used many times before...I will probably use a couple iu preworkout and about 8-10 postworkout....I am going to do some research and see if I can get good results from less slin...I used to use 1iu per 20lbs and weighing 222 now it'd be about 11iu...I will blog about this when I start!
damn i wanna add slin so bad. -_- i have to smack myself and say no lol no slin for you!
Ill post up my protocol from last year in a bit.
But I too prefer Humalog, It allows me to really control my insulin levels with 2 pins a day. Alongside IGF and HGH the results from slin are immensely amplified. Once I'm able to get my hands on some more Humalog i'll start again.
Slin is def. not for those who haven't done their research. Alot of guys get great results from it, i prefer to take it safe, making yourself a diabetic is not going to help you at all.
1mexgear.com/store has Humalog for sale its 90$ a 10 cc bottle. it sells like crazy so get it while you can. like mikyrg51 said it don't take long to see gains . I cant or shouldn't use it as iam boardline diabetic but **** it ill use for mon- fri for shits and giggles. ill use 10 ius a day that's it. 5 x 5 ius. but please ask someone how to use it and I don't want you to buy from mex if u don't know wat your doing buy his dimefor/ metformin its better if your scared of slin. but you wont get nearly as big but youll get a shirt size bigger.
Thats what im not doing it. its tempting but im not at that stage of lifting or knowledge IMO
I have metfor/dimefor im planning on running this bulk. i have been holding it debating on running it for a while i think this is the time im going to try it out!
^^^^^^^^youll be ok brother. it will show a pump feeling and your not lifting then when u start out at gym youll notice pumps all over and they will last about a full 24 hrs but everyones diff u might take 5- 10 days to notice this effect but you wont wake up flat that's for sure. its hard for me to explain the feeling youll get but youll know when u use it. just don't take a lot at first I say 250mg to 500mg p/w then same after w/o then at 5 pm your last dose but go up gradually to get use to it. as if u start out full blow you might get sides that would not of happened if u took it light at first. go up to 1500mg qd for your first month then u can go to 3 gr but no more then that. I went to 3500mg and shits happened but 3 gr is where I might go this time with 5x5 ius slin humulin-r. Humalog is better but its cheap humulinr its 25$ at walmart.
thanks for the info brother i planned on starting out lower maybe working my way up ith it!
I made a error in judgement telling you 3 gr no stay at 1500mg no higher I use 3 gr but please don't go that high. I slipped on that one.
LMAO its ok brother i sitll have the protocol we talked about a long time ago written down at home and i wouldnt go up to 3g. we figured 1200ish would be perfect asfter working my way up to it
thnx sfg I keep some stuff quite as I don't want anybody hurting themselves. ill be the idiot. u know sfg I forgot ever even talking to you but I don't forget the dosage. just don't go past 1500 or 1200 if we came to that. ull be tempted to take another 500mg as theres no sides but don't unless your body is used to it and iam not here to hurt my fellow bbers as I love all you guys.
Damn Clem, I didn't even think to look at 1mex for that! And if I ordered from them the humalog would ship usa domestic too, right?! I am ordering from them next time, guaranteed...
Man as previously stated,insulin is a BEAST,a definite game changer
Can I walk into a pharmacy and get humalog without a script? What do I say?
If I'm not mistaken MOST, not all but most places require a script for humalog due to how fast acting it is. Therefor u can only get humAlog r and the slower acting ones OTC. But if you live in a state or country where you don't need a script just say u need humalog. If they ask say ur diabetic. I'm pretty sure by law they can't question you on that subject so there really isn't more to be said.
Type of Insulin & Brand Names Onset Peak Duration Role in Blood Sugar Management Rapid-Acting Humalog or lispro 15-30 min. 30-90 min 3-5 hours Rapid-acting insulin covers insulin needs for meals eaten at the same time as the injection. This type of insulin is often used with longer-acting insulin. Novolog or aspart 10-20 min. 40-50 min. 3-5 hours Apidra or glulisine 20-30 min. 30-90 min. 1-2½ hours Short-Acting Regular (R) humulin or novolin 30 min. -1 hour 2-5 hours 5-8 hours Short-acting insulin covers insulin needs for meals eaten within 30-60 minutes Velosulin (for use in the insulin pump) 30 min.-1 hour 2-3 hours 2-3 hours Intermediate-Acting NPH (N) 1-2 hours 4-12 hours 18-24 hours Intermediate-acting insulin covers insulin needs for about half the day or overnight. This type of insulin is often combined with rapid- or short-acting insulin. Long-Acting Long-acting insulin covers insulin needs for about one full day. This type of insulin is often combined, when needed, with rapid- or short-acting insulin. Lantus (insulin glargine) 1-1½ hour No peak time; insulin is delivered at a steady level 20-24 hours Levemir (insulin detemir) 1-2 hours 6-8 hours Up to 24 hours Pre-Mixed* Humulin 70/30 30 min. 2-4 hours 14-24 hours These products are generally taken two or three times a day before mealtime. Novolin 70/30 30 min. 2-12 hours Up to 24 hours Novolog 70/30 10-20 min. 1-4 hours Up to 24 hours Humulin 50/50 30 min. 2-5 hours 18-24 hours Humalog mix 75/25 15 min. 30 min.-2½ hours 16-20 hours *Premixed insulins are a combination of specific proportions of intermediate-acting and short-acting insulin in one bottle or insulin pen (the numbers following the brand name indicate the percentage of each type of insulin).
I like that table, Dirtwarrior...i saw something similar a while back...the reason I choose humalog is because the peak is only 30-90 min but the humulin R is more like up to 5 hours...Which means, you have to keep carbs handy all 5 hours...i would rather take it, take my carbs, then eat my meal and forget about it so to speak lol...I did a lot of research on insulin before using it though, a lot
Now all I gotta do is find which insulin is available in KY without a script
Call a random cvs or something and ask
^^^^^ well stated actually! Sometimes the simplest route is the best....Make sure you say "I am a type 1 Diabetic" because then you sound like you know what you are talking about lol...I just read some more on the MANY different forms, as shown in that table above from dirtwarrior...the 70/30 seems interesting but the quickest acting should be the way to go...I do know ppl that like humulin R because it is the next quickest but if you can, stick with humalog...there are places where it can be obtained
^^^^^^I agree with mikeyg51, use Humalog first, I use humulin-r out of confidence and I pay only 24.99$ a bottle otc in nys. the shorter acting the better. its unreal how big you can get on slin wow. its like night and day.
Clem, you are 100% correct! The pumps I get, the fullness, the weight gain, it all rocks....
I just started Humalog the other day....I do 5iu preworkout and 10iu post...I may adjust that post dose in the future but I slam down some powdered BCAA's after each shot with my carbs...I tried just using powdered sugar because I didn't yet have the pure dextrose powder and that was a mistake...I thought it would counteract the hypo but it did not! and THAT is why this compound is not for everybody...The pump after the 5iu administration was intense...My boys were even noticing more muscle fullness...I will keep everyone updated on how its going!
stop making me want it more -_- lmao. im going to run it in my next bulk probably in about a year or so.
I'm gin a be throwing some slin in here in about 3 weeks. Been priming my body for growth and slowly working my carbs up to where my body can handle that many carbs without getting fat. Now lets see the gains come.
How many grams of carbs and protein do u all use post wo with Slin?
I use approx 5-7grams of carbs per iu of slin this time around...so, I pinned 10iu pwo humalog and immediately downed about 60-70grams of dextrose powder with Cellucor's amino powder....I then drink about 40-50grams of protein in a shake...then eat about 45 min later...and keep eating clean lol...
Fat cannot be metabolized while slin is active in your body.
damn i'm gonna end up jumping on this train too. i was gonna try metfomin first but when i was ready to get it i couldn't find it anymore. hearing you guys talk about the weight gain from slin is making my mouth water lol. definitely keep us posted mikey. thanks
My meal will be something like 50grams of protein or something and anywhere from 70-100g carbs...very healthy fats and the carbs are all complex...so:
8oz lean chicken breast
70grams brown rice
some veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, etc)
I am not great on the diet part at all...actually, I just listen to what James and OSL tell me what to eat lol...but I am pretty decent on the administration of slin and whatnot...
^ mex gear has met. ill be running it for the first time with my bulk well see how it goes
Ok, I was talking to OSL and he stated this was a good regiment...I followed this basically for years but he states it in more black and white...so, this is credited to OSL, not me lol haha
3 hours Pre Workout - Slow/medium Carb Meal
1 Hour Pre Workout - Humalog 5iu
Immediately After Humalog - Dextrose/Oats/Protein Shake
During Workout - Dextrose/BCAA -Sipping on this during workout
Immediately After Workout - Humalog 10iu
Following 10iu dose - Dextrose/Protein Shake
30-45 minutes later - Large Protien/Carb Meal
1 Hour after Meal - Protien/Carb meal
2 Hours after last meal - Protien/Carb Meal
Thanks James and Mikey.
You remember when i first ran slin earlier this year? I went from 220 to 240 in a matter of weeks, and I was gaining lean gains while on it. I was up to 12ius post workout.
I ran it for several months...then came off--did a short PCT of that monster cycle, and then took 2 months right off.
I just started again prepping for a show in 7 months.
I am running slin again everday, but POW as well.
I suspect I will hit the 250lbs range, then cut down to 205lbs for the show.
B2J