cash for clunkers

[daved150]

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omg deep!!!! your going WAAAY out on this...yea, ok...i'll stop buying anything derived from oil!!! ....i cant do anything about the oil in my dam dash board, or anywhere else. why would you even bring such an argument to the discussion....c'mon. if you dont understand, it's purely becouse you dont want too, it's not becouse your not able too. if you stand there and tell me that we, as americans, bennifit from the sale of 1 toyota truck, as much as we do as 1 ford truck...your only kidding yourself. not really even an argument....simple fact. thats what we were talking about, remember? not fukin carpet, plastic forks, diapers....trucks!...that was it. not plastice, paint or anytthing else you can try to reduce down to the rediculus to try to make it sound that the ford and the toyota are equal in the bennifits to american when purchased by americans!!!
oh...i'm not trying to make you feel bad. i'm just trying to enlighten you...you WERE one of those "it's built in america" people. you truly, or you projected that you truly, thaught that buying an american ASSEMBLED truck was the same as buying an american MADE truck. i think it's crap that they (foriegn manufactures) have ran around duping people into that belief. when i hear it, i try to correct it. i did alot more "correcting" in fla. and too compair a shirt, a hat, a shoe, to the type of money were talking about in auto's is silly. i wont EVER spend as much money on foriegn made clothes than i will on my trucks...EVER!! i bet you wont either

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Ok Dave- let me truley break it down for you since I'm in the industry. Almost everything and I mean almost everything you use in your daily life or you so called American Ford has in it along with the carpet in your home is imported. 90% of things you see and use in your daily life derive from oil- most of which is imported. The plastic dash in your famed Ford---you guessed it is a derivitive of oil. The dye use to color you carpet- or the Poly-Olefin used to make it- oil. The plastic forks or the tuperware -oil. diapers-oil. You name it (other than wood- and the finished used on wood-oil) it came from oil and that includes you all your cleaners around your house- and lets not forget the gas and oil in your infamous Ford. Now you say , but we refine that here-ok- but lets look at who owns the Co.'s that refine it- do you know a US owned Oil Co.? Chemical Co? there are a few, but a very few. And of course where you your gas- 80-90% of those Exxon/Mobil-BP-Valero- or whatever station you use are owned and operated by what???? Foriegners. I bet you haven't checked the clothes on your back lately for where they are made. All I'm saying is lets don't get all caught up in the American Made thing and try to make other feel bad because they didn't buy a so-called American made vehicle- truth be know- we aint that American other than in spirit.

[daved150]

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nope..the same dont hold true...this aint a fukin shoe bro. the 2004 f150 cost over 100mil to devlop. ok...100million dollars for american workers!!! and thats just 1 unit!! from idea, to drawing board, to little model, to clay model, to workable proto type, to stamping, to production...MILLIONS pored into the american economy...so no...not NEARLY the same, lol

i dont shop walmart...NEXT!

dude...i dont have any malasyn hats...i dont wear hats too ofton, but most people trade out every 3 yrs or less. this, what we're talking about here, is the second highest purchase that most peole will ever make. and, alot of people purchase every 2 yrs or less...thats alot of fukin hats dude...your actually gonna campair hats to auto's currently averaging 30k selling price each??? thats silly and not even close to compairable

its not hard for me to point a finger. i make a concience effort to purchase american everytime i can (hence the reason i dont do walmart). and i'd rather support THOUSANDS of hard working americans then 2 or 3. and resale value...well ofcourse it fukin higher when you pay more for the thing to begin with, lmao!! and quality...bro...that wars been loosing ground for over 5 years for the japs! toyota continues to drop and ford continues to rise and anybody that says differently just aint got a clue. go read...research...learn the truth.

i actually think your just another victim of the hype and bullshyt of advertising. that part of society that believe "assembled" means "built", that part of america that still believe foriegn build better although they continue to loose the information to support the argument. before it was "safty" the japs make "safer" cars...now...everything we build is fukin 5star and there little ass cars are death traps...then it was "quality"...yep///we fuked up and fell behind...ok...that was a decade ago...wake up. thing evolve and even the precuious toyota is showing they cant handle their own size...

actually...me and you both know you dont keep a unit for more than a few years. we both know that ford, toyota, either way, you pretty much qaraunteed through warranty's that your not gonna have a prob. the "quality" thing is just simply a way for foriegn buying americans to make theirselves feel better...little justifications for their own mind...my f150 has 142k and i baught it at 80k...i've done 2 oil changes (yes...dont buy a car after i've owned it). how will your be at 142k? oh wait....you wont own it for that long, will you? thats ok...i'm sure it's built good enough to make it there....you'll just never know, lol

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well they had a thing on TV some time back about some tennis shoes being tagged "Made in America" and from what I remember they had to remove that because alot of the materials that they were made of were imported- hence NOT American Made- doesn't the same hold true form all the imported parts on everthing we use day to day including our vehicles??? Have you shopped at Wal-Mart? Then you have shopped at the most Un-American -American owned store in the world, but they employ many Americans as does Toyota. I'm sure the hat you put on your head( unless you wear a Stetson- like a good Texan) says made in Malaysia- when 80-90% of the things we use on a daily basis aren't made here- its hard to point a finger at a guy you buys a car/truck that is assembled HERE and is supporting employment of fellow hard working American because the re-sale value and quality is better. Lets truely face it- Japs and Germans make quality stuff. So just turn up your Chinese radio and enjoy the American music thats probably being played by a Co. thats foriegn owned-LOL

[daved150]

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is there really a TRUE AMERICAN made vehicle???? half the electronics (even in your mighty Ford) are made in China- there is no such thing as an American made vehicle

And just for the record- That Ford in the pick can't even come close to the Yoda-LOL . Just face it Dave- Yoda set the bar on this Tundra- it will take Ford and the likes a while to answer the call

omg, your so fukin delusional...bro...seriously...dont operate any large pieces of equipment...seriously...your fuked up!!!!

i dont care about a damn radio, lol...the concept of "made" in america is more than where it's assembled. it's going from idea, to the drawing board, to a clay model, to a prototype, to a test unit, and so on... it passes through THOUSANDS of americans hands before it get a green light to be built! that tundra plant in texas dont produce dick for american income compaire to a gm, chrysler or ford built unit. think about it deep...it takes 10 people for every 1 person on the assembly line to get a unit TOO the assembly line...all your doing is giving 1 american and 10 japs a job....you may not want to hear that, but it's the truth. people can try to justify it all they want...rationalize it, twist it...dosnt matter. you purchase a foriegn car, you supporting a foriegn company thats paying foriegn workers...plain and simple. sorry if it makes you squirm a little to hear it...it is what it is.

ALSO...DONT FORGET...IF PUCHASING A NEW VEHICLE IN 2009 YOU CAN WRITE THE SALES TAX OFF ON YOUR TAXES THIS YEAR!!!

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is there really a TRUE AMERICAN made vehicle???? half the electronics (even in your mighty Ford) are made in China- there is no such thing as an American made vehicle

And just for the record- That Ford in the pick can't even come close to the Yoda-LOL . Just face it Dave- Yoda set the bar on this Tundra- it will take Ford and the likes a while to answer the call

[daved150]

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that's nice why you getting rid of it. manual or auto. and why did you get the all wheel drive living where you do? Also i love those tundras they are made 20 miles down the road because they are AMERICAN MADE FOR AMERICAN USE as the signs around here say. don't have a heart attack dave.

jap made, american assembled....someone around there needs to get the definition of "american made"!!!

[daved150]

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well..even though the beamer is probobly a clunker...it wont qualify. also...that beater ford will fuk that "yoda" up!!!!


dosnt work on commercial vehicles. its gonna be hard to buy any suv or truck on this program....that defeats the governments goal of ridding the u.s. of trucks. they already got the inferior, weak, very car like toyota and nissan trucks in here, and now they have control over chrysler and gm...the only one left too protect your rights and fight the evil is ford. F.O.R.D.

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if it aint broke- don't fix it! I think we have 63K on the Beamer and I just put new rubber on her and new rotors and pads

[jamescb77]

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nice i need to get the little lady a newer/nicer car then what she has now. 03 civic basic but it's beat to hell runs alright though bit it's got over 100k and it's not worth having the timing belt changed in so i told her to drive it until it breaks who know how long that will be

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The Beamer is stick . You have to understand my wife has never owned a car this long- hell I didn't buy tags for a vehicle for the first 12yrs of our marriage. We never have like to keep a car for more than a year or so- and this one is 3yrs old- so out with the old- in with the new. I would swap it out now, but I'm going to pay off a few thing- re-fi the house- then buy her car so I can get ready to price having a pool put in

[jamescb77]

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that's nice why you getting rid of it. manual or auto. and why did you get the all wheel drive living where you do? Also i love those tundras they are made 20 miles down the road because they are AMERICAN MADE FOR AMERICAN USE as the signs around here say. don't have a heart attack dave.

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Don't let dave look to hard at the Super Truck in the background and I aint talking about that Beater Ford parked in the back-LOL

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03' BMW 325Xi

[jamescb77]

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what kind of bmw does she have deep