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      False Positives

      What is a false positive? It is a test result that is returned when a substance tests positive for another compound. It is a case of mistaken identity. For example if you eat a couple poppy seed cakes before testing, you can get a positive result for opiates.

      The chances of you getting a false positive depends on the quality of the laboratory that does the testing. There seems to be about 1,200 of these labs in the United States currently testing for drugs. Less than a 100 of these meet federal standards and most of the individual states do not regulate drug test labs. The number of false positives returned range from 4% to over 50%, depending on the lab.

      A concern here is that, if your company tests for drug useage, they are probably not required to use a certified drug testing lab, which means you have a greater chance of getting a false positive.

      Listed below are products reported to cause a false positive drug test result on a urine drug test. With your help, this will grow into a comprehensive list.

      Note that this list does NOT apply to those tests that are confirmed by GC/MS testing.

      Last updated, April 20, 2010.

      Substances that cause false positives

      4-Way Nasal Spray - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7)
      Accutrim - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 11, 16, 18)
      Acetaminoph w/codeine - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Acet-AM - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Acro-Lase Plus® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Adam (slang) may test positive for methamphetamine and ecstasy (Ref: 33)
      Afrinol may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      A.P.C. w/codeine - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      A.R.M. - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Actifed - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 2, 3, 7, 18)
      Actifed with Codeine Cough Syrup® (Ref: 18)
      Adderall - is an amphetamine, positive for Meth (Ref: 2008 PDR, 18, 19)
      Advil - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 14, 16, 18, 20, 26, 29) (Ref. 22 says NO)
      Afrin - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Aleve - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Alka-Seltzer - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 2, 7)
      Alka-Seltzer Plus - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7)
      Allerest - false positive for Amphetamines, Ecstasy, Meth and Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 3, 7, 11, 16, 18)
      Allobarbital may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Alphenol may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Alprazolam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18, 33)
      Amantadine (Ref: 32)
      Ambenyl contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Amesec - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Amfepramone - false positive for Amphetamines, Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Amifepramone - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Amineptine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Amitriptyline - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 47)
      Amitriptyline may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) (Ref: 33)
      Amobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Amogel PG® contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Amoxicillin - false positive for cocaine (Ref: 13, 16, 18, 20, 21, 26, 29)
      Ampicillin - false positive for cocaine (Ref: 29)
      Amphetaminil metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Ampicin - may cause false positive for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Anaprox - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 3, 18)
      Ansaid - false positive for marijuana (Ref: 3)
      Anti Anxiety medication, most - false positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 3)
      Anti Inflammatories such as Naproxyn (Ref: 26)
      Antiasthmatics that contain phenobarbitol - false positive for barbiturates (Ref: 3)
      Antihistamines in general - false positives for Methadone (Ref: 43)
      Antibiotics - false positives for Heroin, Cocaine (Ref: 13, 18, 20)
      Antrocol Elixor® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Anxitol may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Apo-Naproxen - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1)
      Aprobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Artane - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Ascriptin w/codeine - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Aspirin with Codeine (Ref: 18)
      Asthma medications - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20, 21)
      Astramoprh PF ® contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Ativan® (lorazepam) contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Atripla - false positive for cannabinoid THC (Ref: 39)
      B2 vitamin - false positive for THC (Ref: 21)
      Barbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Bayer Select Maximum Strength Sinus Pain Relief Caplets - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Bayer Select Pain Relief Formula - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Benadryl (Diphenhydramine) - false positives for Benzodiazepines, PCP, Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 24, 45)
      Bentyl® - false positive for LSD , Methadone (Ref: 3, 18, 43)
      Benylin - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Benzatropine/Artane® (Ref: 18)
      Benzedrine® - Amphetamines (Ref: 18)
      Benzphetamine - false positives for Amphetamines, Ecstasy, and LSD (Ref: 3, 11, 18, 47)
      Biphetamine® for Amphetamines (Ref: 18)
      Black Pearls (Tung Sheuh pills) contain benzodiazepines (Ref: 32)
      Briantum may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Bromazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Bromocriptine/Parlodel® (Ref: 18)
      Bromocription - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Bromphenlramlne - false-Positive for Amphetamine (Ref: 22)
      Broncholate CS contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Bronkaid - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates, Ecstasy, Meth (Ref: 1, 3, 16, 18)
      Bronkotabs - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1, 11)
      Buprenex® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Buprenorphine contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Bupropion (Wellbutrin) - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 12, 31, 32)
      Buproprion - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Buspirone - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Butabarbital may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Butalbital may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Butisol may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Cafergot® - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 18)
      Caldecon - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7,)
      Capital and Codeine Oral Solution - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3, 18)
      Captagon® metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Carbamazepine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Cathne - false positives for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (MDMA) (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Centrax may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Cephradine - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Cheracol contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Cheracol Sinus - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Chinese herb pills contain benzodiazepines (Ref: 32)
      Chiorpromazlne - False-Positive for Amphetamine (Ref: 22, 26)
      Chlordiazepoxide contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Chlordiazepoxide may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Chlorpromazine - false positive for Opiates (Also false for pregnancy) (Ref: 23, 32)
      Chlorpromazine - false positive for phencyclidine (Ref: 32)
      Chlorpromazine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) and LSD - (Ref: 46, 47)
      Cipro (antibiotic) - false positives for opiates (Ref: 25, 32)
      Clinafloxacin - (Ref: 25)
      Clinoril - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Clobazam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Clobenzorex - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Clonazepam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Clonazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Clonopin may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Clorazepate may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Coca tea, Coca leaf, Coca flour, Coca oil - positive for cocaine (Ref: 41)
      Co-codamol - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Codafen - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Codafen may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Codeine - false positives for Amphetamines (Ref: 14)
      Codeine - will test positive (not false) for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Codeine Linctus may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Codeine Phosphate may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Codinal PH® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Co-dydramol - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Coffee-Break - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Cold remedies with dextromethorphan - positive for opiates (heroin) (Ref: 21)
      Combivent inhaler - false positive for meth in urine tests (Ref: 19)
      Comtrex - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Concerta - false positive for meth in urine tests (Ref: 19)
      Contac - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 7, 20)
      Contac Severe Cold Formula - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 43)
      Contact - false positives for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 2, 3, 7, 11, 16, 18)
      Contact Non-Drowsy Formula Sinus Caplets - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Control - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Co-proximal may test positive for Propoxyphene (PPX) (Ref: 33)
      Cough medicines - See if any ingredients are on this list (Ref: 6, 20)
      Cough suppressants with Dextromethorphan (DXM) - false positive for Heroin (MDMA) (Ref: 16)
      Cows head pills (Chinese herb) contain benzodiazepines (Ref: 32)
      Cramp End Tablets - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Cremacoat 4 - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 43)
      Cyclimorph - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Cyclobenzaprine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Cylert - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Cyproheptadine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Dalmane® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Darvocet may test positive for Propoxyphene (PPX) (Ref: 33)
      Darvon may test positive for Propoxyphene (PPX) (Ref: 33)
      Darvon® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Datril - false positives for Marijuana (Ref: 1)
      Daypro - false positives for benzodiazepines (Ref: 34)
      Deconsal contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Delorazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Demerol - tests positive for opiates (Ref: 26, 29)
      Demetrin may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Deprenyl - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Desipramine - false positives for LSD (Ref: 32, 47)
      Desoxyephedrine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Desoxyn may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Desoyn® contains d-methamphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Dexatrim - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Dexdenfluramine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Dexedrine is an Amphetamine (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Dexedrine may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Dexfenfluramine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 11)
      Dextroamphetamine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Dextroamphetamine may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Dextromethorphan - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1, 3, 16, 21, 26, 29, 32)
      Dextromethorphan hydrobromide or DXM - false positives for amphetamines (Ref: 6, 11)
      Dextropropoxyphene may test positive for Propoxyphene (PPX) (Ref: 33)
      DHC may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      DHEA - false positive for anabolic steroid use (Ref: 13)
      Diabetes - false positives for Amphetamines, Cocaine, THC, Ecstasy, Meth and Opiates (Ref: 3, 15, 16, 20, 21)
      Diabismul® contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Diazemuls may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Diazepam - false positive for PCP (Ref: 29)
      Diazepam (generic name for Valium) - contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18, 20, 26)
      Diazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Dicyclomine (Ref: 18)
      Didrex - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 11)
      Diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim) - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 11, 16, 18)
      Diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim) - false positive for amphetamines (Ref: 2, 10, 16)
      Dietac - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 7)
      Dietac - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7)
      Dihydrocodeine may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Dihyrocodeine contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Dilantin - false positives for Barbiturates (Ref: 3, 20)
      Dilaudid may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Dilaudid® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Diltiazem - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Dimetane-DC Cough Syrup ® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Dimetapp - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 7)
      Dimetapp - false positive for Morphine, Meth, Ecstasy (Ref: 1, 2, 7, 11, 16, 18)
      Dimethylamphetamine metabolizes to methamphetamine and amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Dinintel® metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Diocalm may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Diphenhydramine - false positive for phencyclidine (Ref: 32)
      Diphenhydramine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) - false positive PCP results (Ref: 24)
      d-Methamphetamine HCL may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Doco children's cough syrup - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Dolobid - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Dolophine may test positive for methadone (Ref: 33)
      Dolophine® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Donnagel-PG ® contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Donnatal may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Donnatal® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Donnatol (for irritable bowel syndrome) - false positive for barbiturates (Ref: 3)
      Dormonocet® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Doxepin - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Doxepin may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      Doxylamine - false positive for phencyclidine (Ref: 32)
      Dristan Cold caplets - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Dristan Cough Formula - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1, 18)
      Dristan Nasal Spray - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 26, 29)
      Drixoral Cold and Flu - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Dronabad® (Ref: 18)
      Dronabinol (Marinol) - false positives for THC (Ref: 16, 18)
      Duramorph - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Duramorph® contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Durophet® Amphetamines (Ref: 18)
      E (slang) may test positive for methamphetamine and ecstasy (Ref: 33)
      Ecstasy (slang) may test positive for methamphetamine and ecstasy (Ref: 33)
      Edecrin - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Efavirenz - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 32)
      Efavirenz may test positive for THC (Ref: 33)
      Effexor Tablets (venlafaxine hydrochloride) - false positive for PCP (Ref: 27)
      Efidac/24 - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Efotamine - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Elavil - false positives for opiates for up to three days, LSD, Methadone (Ref: 3, 26, 29, 43)
      Eldepryl - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Elderpryl® metabolizes to methamphetamine and amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Empirin w/codeine - false positive for Morphine, Opioids (Ref: 1, 3, 20)
      Emprin with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Enoxacin - false-positive for opiates (Ref: 25, 28)
      Entersan may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Ephedra - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20, 22)
      Ephedrine - false positive for Amphetamines, Meth, and Ecstasy (Ref: 2, 3, 11, 16, 18, 29, 30, 32)
      Ephedrine-based compounds - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20, 22)
      Ephedrol, Ephedra (Ma Haung) - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Ergostat® - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 18)
      Ergotamine (Ref: 18)
      Estasule Minus - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Estazolam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Etafediabe - false positive for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Ethylamphetamine metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Ethylmorphine may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Eve (slang) may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Excedrin IB - false positives for Marijuana (Cannabis) THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Famprofazone - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Feldene - false positives for THC (Ref: 3, 18)
      Fencamine metabolizes to methamphetamine and amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Fenelylline - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Fenfluramine - false positive for Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Fenoprofin - false positive for Marijuana, Amphetamines, Barbiturates (Ref: 1, 7)
      Fenproporex metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Fenproyorex - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Fentanyl - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Finedal® metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Fioricet may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Fioricet with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Fiorinal may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Fiorinal w/codeine - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1, 3, 18, 20)
      Flunitrazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Fluoroquinolone antibiotics - false positive for opiates (Ref: 28, 32)
      Fluoxetine (Prozac) - false positives for amphetamines and LSD (Ref: 31, 47)
      Flurazepam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Flurbiprofen - false positive for marijuana (Ref: 3)
      Fluriprofen® (Ref: 18)
      Fluspirilene may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 26)
      Frisium may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Furfenorex metabolizes to methamphetamine and amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Galcodine may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Galenphol may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Gamanil may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      Gatifloxacin (Ref: 25)
      Genpril - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Gradumet® contains d-methamphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Haloperidol - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Halotest-25 (Ref: 40)
      Haltran - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Hamantashen may test positive for opiates. (Ref: 13)
      Hempseed Oil - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 21, 29)
      Hold Cough Suppressant - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Homatropine Methylbromide contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Hycodan® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Hydergine - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Hydrocodone - false positive for oxycodone (Ref: 41)
      Hydrocodone Bitartrate contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Hydrocodone contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Hydrocodone may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Hydromorphone contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Hydromorphone may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Hydrostat may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Hydroymethamphetamone - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Ibuprin - false positive for marijuana (Ref: 3)
      Ibuprofen - false positive for Marijuana (THC) (Ref: 1, 3, 16, 18, 29, 48)
      Ifenoprofen - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 13, 18, 21, 26)
      Imitrex Hydergine® (Ref: 3, 18)
      Indocin - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Infantol Pink ® contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Infumorf contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Isoclor Expectorant contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Kaoden with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Kaodene with Paregoric® contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Kapake - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Kapake may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Kenesed® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Ketamine - false positive for PCP (Ref: 16, 32)
      Ketoprofen - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Kidney disease - false positive for Cocaine (Ref: 3, 16, 20)
      Kidney infection - false positive for Amphetamines, THC, Ecstasy, and Opiates (Ref: 3, 15, 16, 21)
      Klonopin may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Klonopin® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Koalin and Morphine Mixture may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Labetolol - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Lerisum may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Ketipinor (quetiapine) - false-positives for amphetamines (Ref: 48)
      Levaquin® - false positive for opiates (Ref: 35)
      Levofloxacin (antibiotic) - false positives for opiates (Ref: 25, 28)
      Lexotan may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Libritab® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Librium may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Librium® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Limbitrol® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Lisuride - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Lisuride/Dopergin® (Ref: 18)
      Liver Disease - false positive for Opiates, Ecstasy, THC and Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 15, 16, 20, 21)
      l-Methamphetamine HCL may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Lodine - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 20)
      Lofepramine may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      Lomefloxacin (Ref: 25)
      Lomont may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      Loprazolam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Loratab may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Lorazepam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Lorazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Lorcet may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Lormetazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Lortab - an opioid analgesic (PDR*)
      Love Drug (slang) may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Luminal may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Luminal® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Lysergol - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 18)
      Ma Huang (Ephedra sinica) - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20, 32)
      Marax - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Margestic - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Marinol® false positive for Marijuana (THC) (Ref: 3, 18)
      Maximum Strength Sine-aid - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Maximum Strength Sinus Gelcaps (Ref: 18)
      Maximum Strength Sudafed Sinus - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Maximum Strength Tylenol Sinus gelcaps - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      may test Positive for Opiates (Ref: 33)
      Meclomen - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Medacepan may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Medazepam may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Medipren - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Mediprim - false positive for marijuana (Ref: 3)
      Mefenorex - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Menstrual cramp medications like Midol and Trendar (Ref: 26)
      Meperidine - false positive for phencyclidine (Ref: 32)
      Mephentermine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Mesocarb - false positive for Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Methadone contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Methadone Hydrochloride may test positive for methadone (Ref: 33)
      Methadose may test positive for methadone (Ref: 33)
      Methamprex may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Methedrine may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Methoxyphenamine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Methphenidate - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 11)
      Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA) may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) may test positive for methamphetamine and ecstasy (Ref: 33)
      Methylphenidate (Ritalin) an Amphetamine-like stimulant (Ref: 3, 32)
      Methysergide/Sansert® (Ref: 18)
      Methysergiside - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3)
      Metoclopramide - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Midol - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 26, 29)
      Migraleve may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Mini-thins - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20)
      Miracle herb pills (Chinese herb) contain benzodiazepines (Ref: 32)
      Mogadon may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Morax - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Morazone - false positive for Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Morcap - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Morphine Sulfate - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Motrin - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 3, 16, 18, 20, 26, 29)
      Moxifloxacin (Ref: 25)
      MS Contin - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      MS Contin Tablets® contain morphine (Ref: 18)
      MSIR® contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Mudrane GC® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Naldecon - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Nalfon - false positive for Marijuana, Amphetamines, Barbituates, Benzodiazephines, Methaqualone (Ref: 1, 3, 7, 18)
      Naprosyn - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 3, 18)
      Naproxen (Aleve) - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 3, 16, 21)
      Naproxyn (Ref: 26)
      Nasal sprays (Vicks inhaler, Afrin) - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 2, 10, 16, 21)
      Navonaprox - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1)
      Nembutal may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Nembutal Sodium contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Neosynephren - false positive reading for Amphetamines (Ref: 26, 29)
      Neosynephrine - False positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18, 26)
      Nitrazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      No Drowsiness Sinarest Tablets (Ref: 3, 18)
      Nobritol may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Nobrium may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Noctamide may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Nonprescription products that contain opium (i.e., morphine) (Ref: 18)
      Norcyclobenzaprine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Norflex - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 43)
      Norfloxacin (Ref: 25)
      Novahistine DH® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Novahistine Expectorant® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      NSAIDS - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 20, 32) (Ref. 22 says NO)
      Nucofed Expectorant contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Numorphan® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Nuprin - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18, 20, 26, 29)
      Nyquil - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates, Morphine, Meth, Ecstasy, Methadone (Ref: 1, 3, 11, 14, 16, 18, 19, 20, 26, 29, 43)
      Obetrol® Amphetamines (Ref: 18)
      Ofloxacin (antibiotic) - false positives for opiates (Ref: 25, 28)
      Opazimes may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Oramorph - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Oramorph contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Ornade - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Ortain - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 2, 7, 11)
      Orudis KT - false positives for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Orudis® (Ref: 3, 18)
      OTC diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim) (Ref: 11)
      Over-the-counter nasal sprays (See Vicks inhaler, Afrin) (Ref: 11, 16, 18, 20)
      Oxaprozin - false positive for THC, Marijuana, Benzodiazepines (Ref: 3, 18, 34)
      Oxazepam contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Oxazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Ox-pam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Oxycodone - positive for Oxycodone (Ref: 33)
      Oxycodone contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Oxycontin - positive for Oxycodone (Ref: 33)
      Oxymorphone contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Pamprin® - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 20)
      Pantoprazole - false positive for THC (Ref: 37)
      Paracetamol (Acetaminophen)/Codeine (Ref: 33)
      Paracetamol with codeine - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Paracodine® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Paramol may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Paregoric contains opium/morphine (Ref: 18)
      Par-Glycerol-C (CV) contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Pavacol-D may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Pedacare - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Pediacof® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Pediatric may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Pefloxacin - false positive for Opiates (Ref: 25, 28)
      Pemoline - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Pentobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Pentobarbital Sodium contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Percocet - will test positive (not false) for opiates (Ref: 3, 20)
      Percodan - positive for Oxycodone (Ref: 33)
      Percodan® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 3, 18, 20)
      Percovil - will test positive (not false) for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Perphe****ne - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Perylamine (Ref: 26)
      Phenaphen with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Phendimetrazine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Phenegan-D - false positive for Amphetamines, Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Phenergan VC® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Phenergan with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Phenergan® - false positive for THC, Methadone (Ref: 3, 16, 18, 43)
      Phenergan-D (Ref: 18)
      Phenmetrazine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11)
      Phenobarbital contains barbiturates (Ref: 18, 20)
      Phenobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Phenobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Phenobarbitone may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Phentermine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy on urine tests (Ref: 3, 4, 11)
      Phenylephrine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Phenylephrine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 11)
      Phenylpropanolamine - false positive for amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18, 22, 30, 32)
      Phenylpropanolamine (PPA) - false positive for Meth (Ref: 11, 16)
      Phenypropan-Olamine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 2, 7) (This is an active ingredient in Actifed, Alka-Seltzer, Alka-Selzer Plus, Allerest, Caldecon, Contac, Dietac, Dimetapp, 4-Way Nasal Spray, Ortain, Sinarest, Triaminicin)
      Phenypropanolamine - false positive reading for Amphetamines (Ref: 29)
      Pholcodine may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Pholedrine - false positive for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Physetone may test positive for methadone (Ref: 33)
      Poly-Histine contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Pondinil® metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Poppy Seeds contain morphine - positive for Heroin (MDMA), Opiates (Ref: 3, 16, 17, 20, 21, 25, 26, 29, 32, 48)
      Potentsex pills (Chinese herb) contain benzodiazepines (Ref: 32)
      Prazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Prenylamine metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Preparations - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Prescription medications that contain codeine (Ref: 18)
      Prescription NSAIDS (Ref: 18, 20)
      Prescription sleeping pills may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 3, 20)
      Primatene-M (Ref: 26, 29)
      Primatine Tablets - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Prochlorperazine - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Promethazine - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Promethegan - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Propanolamine (Ref: 26)
      Propoxyphene contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Propylephedrine - false positive for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      ProSom may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Proton pump inhibitors - false positive for THC (Ref: 37)
      Protonix - false positive for THC (Ref: 37)
      Prozac (Fluoxetine Hydrochloride) - false positives for amphetamines (Ref: 31)
      Pseudoephederine - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20)
      Pseudoephedrine may be detected as amphetamines (speed) (Ref: 3, 11, 18, 21, 30, 48)
      Pseudoephedrine may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Pseudoephedrineare - false positive for amphetamines (Ref: 22)
      Purim cookies contain poppy seeds, false positive for opiates (Ref: 13, 16, 17)
      Pylorid may test positive for methamphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Quadrinal® - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1, 18)
      Quelichine - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Quelidrine - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Quetiapine (Seroquel) - false positive for amphetamines (Ref: 48)
      Quibron Plus - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Quinine in Tonic water - positive for opiates (Ref: 26, 29, 32)
      Quinolones (Ref: 25)
      Ranitidine - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 32)
      Ranitidine may test positive for methamphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Redux - false positive for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16)
      Relafen - false positive for Marijuana (Ref: 3)
      Remedeine Forte may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Remedeine may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Remedine - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Rescudose contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Restoril may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Rexatal® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Riboflavin (vitamin B2) - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18, 21)
      Rifampicin (antibiotic) - false positive for Opioids (Ref: 3)
      Rifampin - false positive for Opiates (Ref: 25, 32)
      Risperidone - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Ritalin® an Amphetamine-like stimulant (Ref: 18)
      Rivotril may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Rivotril® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Robitussin - positive for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Robitussin A-C® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Robitussin Cold and Flu - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Robitussin DAC® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Robitussin DM - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Rohypnol may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Romilar - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Roxanol - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Roxanol contains morphine (Ref: 18)
      Roxicet - positive for Oxycodone (Ref: 33)
      Rufin - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 1, 3)
      Secobarbital contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Secobarbital may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Secobarbital Sodium Bellergal-S® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Seconal may test positive for barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Seconal Sodium contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Selegiline (Eldepryl) - false positive for Meth, Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 18)
      Serax may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Serax® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Seroquel (quetiapine) - false-positives for amphetamines (Ref: 48)
      Sertraline - false positives for benzodiazepines and LSD (Ref: 44, 47)
      Sertraline may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Severedol - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Shampoo containing hemp (Ref: 29)
      Silexin - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Sinarest - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7)
      Sine-Aid Tablets Maximum Strength (Ref: 18)
      Sine-Off - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Sinequan may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      Sinex - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3)
      Sinubid - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Sinus Excedrin Extra Strength Caplets - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Solfoton® contains barbiturates (Ref: 18)
      Solpadol - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Solpadol may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Soma - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 43)
      Soma with Codeine (Ref: 18)
      Somnite may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Soneryl may test positive for Barbiturates (Ref: 33)
      Sparfloxacin (Ref: 25)
      St. Joseph's Cough Syrup - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Stesolid may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Strong BP may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Sudafed - false positive for Amphetamines, Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18, 20, 26, 29)
      Sudafed may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Sustiva (Efanirenz) - false positive for THC or Marijuana (Ref: 38)
      Sustiva may test positive for THC (Ref: 33)
      Synalgos DC® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 18)
      Tanning lotion containing hemp (Ref: 2)
      Tavist-D - false positive for Meth and Ecstasy (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Tedral - false positive for Amphetamines, Heroin, Opiates (Ref: 1)
      Tegisec® metabolizes to amphetamine (Ref: 18)
      Temazepam may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Thebacon may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Thioridazine - false positive for phencyclidine and LSD (Ref: 32, 47)
      Thioridazine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Tolectin® - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 20)
      Tonic water - false positive for cocaine (Ref: 16, 18)
      Tranxene may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Trazedone (Trazadone) (Ref: 32)
      Trazodone - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Trendar Cramp Relief Formula - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18, 26, 29)
      Triaminic 12 - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Triaminic Expectorant with Codeine® (Ref: 18)
      Triaminicin - false positive for Amphetamines, Morphine (Ref: 1, 2, 7)
      TriazolamHalcion® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Tricyclic antidepressants may produce false-positive results for amphetamines (Ref: 48)
      Trimeprazine - false positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) - (Ref: 46)
      Triminicol - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Triprolidine - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 18)
      Trucal - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Tussagesic - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Tussaminic - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Tussar 2® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Tussar SF® contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Tussinic - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Tussi-Organiden contains codeine (Ref: 18)
      Tylenol (acetaminophen) with Codeine® (Ref: 3, 18, 20, 33)
      Tylenol 3 - may cause positive for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Tylenol 3 - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Tylenol 4 - may cause positive for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Tylenol Cold (combination) may test positive for amphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Tylenol Simply Sleeps (Diphenhydramine) - false positive PCP results (Ref: 24)
      Tylenol Sinus - false positives for Amphetamines and Ecstasy (Ref: 20)
      Tylenol Sinus gelcaps, Maximum Strength - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 3, 18)
      Tylex - positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Tylex may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Unisom Nighttime Sleep Aid - false positive for Morphine (Ref: 43)
      Valclair may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Valerian Root and extract - false positives for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 36)
      Valium may test positive for Benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Valium® (Diazepam) contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18, 20)
      Valrelease® contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Venlafaxine hydrochloride (Effexor) - false positive for PCP (Ref: 27)
      Verapamil - false positive for LSD (Ref: 47)
      Vicks Cough Syrup - false positive for Heroin, Opiates, Morphine (Ref: 1)
      Vicks Formula 44M - false positive for heroin, Methadone (Ref: 1, 14, 26, 29, 43)
      Vicks Inhaler - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Vick's Inhaler may test positive for methamphetamine (Ref: 33)
      Vicks Nasal Spray (Ref: 26, 29)
      Vicks Nyquil - false positive for Ecstasy (MDMA), Meth (Ref: 3, 11, 16, 18)
      Vicodin ES® contains synthetic opiates (Ref: 3, 18)
      Vicodin may test positive for opiates (Ref: 33)
      Vitamin B2 - false positive for THC (Ref: 3, 16, 18)
      Voltaren - false positive for THC, Marijuana (Ref: 3, 18)
      Wellbutrin - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 12)
      Wigraine® - false positive for LSD (Ref: 3, 18)
      Wygesic - will test positive (not false) for opiates (Ref: 20)
      Xanax® (Niravam, Alprazolam) contains benzodiazepines (Ref: 18)
      Xepin may test positive for Tricyclic Antidepressants (Ref: 33)
      XTC (slang) may test positive for methamphetamine and ecstasy (Ref: 33)
      Zantac - false positive for Amphetamines (Ref: 30)
      Zantac may test positive for methamphetamines (Ref: 33)
      Zoloft - false positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 31)
      Zoloft may test positive for benzodiazepines (Ref: 33)
      Zyrtec-D contains pseudoephedrine that may cause a false positive for amphetamines (Ref: 3, 11, 18, 21, 30)
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      this should hgave been stuck before!! great info
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      agreed!!!
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      Just bumpin a good sticky
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      Fabulous, it's one of the reasons I oppose drug testing in the workplace and welfare recipients.

      As a ex-chemist, I can't stand the cheap immunoassays that also miss many drugs ( false negatives) and the numerous false positives. The standard urine drug screen in emergency rooms miss methadone, xanax and fentanyl...just to name a few. The gas chromatography is much more accurate but now the price goes from 20 dollars to over 300 -500dollars. Going back to the welfare testing, number 1, studies show they are no more likely to abuse drugs than the general population ( my family was on welfare when my DAD was a P.O.W in Vietnam), #2, by the time we train point of care technicians to handle specimens (which is intensive, as a Lab director, I know) and due process for positive tests ( confirmatory with gas or mass spectrometry), we have just spent more money than just allowing the 2% that abuse drugs to continue abusing drugs. ( For the record, my brother was a speech writer in Washington and he can tell you more Senators abuse drugs than welfare recipients, so if we test any government workers, let's test the ones that suck up our tax monies for their eternally expensive retirement and health care plans).

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      Great post.

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      Default Re: Substances that cause false positives

      Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
      Fabulous, it's one of the reasons I oppose drug testing in the workplace and welfare recipients.

      As a ex-chemist, I can't stand the cheap immunoassays that also miss many drugs ( false negatives) and the numerous false positives. The standard urine drug screen in emergency rooms miss methadone, xanax and fentanyl...just to name a few. The gas chromatography is much more accurate but now the price goes from 20 dollars to over 300 -500dollars. Going back to the welfare testing, number 1, studies show they are no more likely to abuse drugs than the general population ( my family was on welfare when my DAD was a P.O.W in Vietnam), #2, by the time we train point of care technicians to handle specimens (which is intensive, as a Lab director, I know) and due process for positive tests ( confirmatory with gas or mass spectrometry), we have just spent more money than just allowing the 2% that abuse drugs to continue abusing drugs. ( For the record, my brother was a speech writer in Washington and he can tell you more Senators abuse drugs than welfare recipients, so if we test any government workers, let's test the ones that suck up our tax monies for their eternally expensive retirement and health care plans).

      Good points and although I do agree with you about politicians their abuse,I have to disagree with you about not testing welfare recipients.I feel if we are going to test than politicians should be included in this as well and should actually be the first to be tested.

      Drugs are not the only thing politicians abuse though so that is only a beginning to what needs to be looked at about politicians.

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      I agree, if we are going to go through the expense of testing entitlement recipients, then we need to test all them, including congressional representatives who command a huge retirement portfolio and cadillac health insurance benefits that use up more of our tax monies than welfare recipients.
      Regarding the latter, remember, lots of ex-veterans are welfare recipients. Many , post combat veterans, are drug users of some sort or another. I can't begrudge them for what the hell they have been put through, we would be needlessly punishing their family and children.....and once again, they are no more likely to use illicit drugs than the general population. A false positive in a exveteran , he has no legal recourse. A senator, can at least hire a lawyer....

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      Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
      I agree, if we are going to go through the expense of testing entitlement recipients, then we need to test all them, including congressional representatives who command a huge retirement portfolio and cadillac health insurance benefits that use up more of our tax monies than welfare recipients.
      Regarding the latter, remember, lots of ex-veterans are welfare recipients. Many , post combat veterans, are drug users of some sort or another. I can't begrudge them for what the hell they have been put through, we would be needlessly punishing their family and children.....and once again, they are no more likely to use illicit drugs than the general population. A false positive in a exveteran , he has no legal recourse. A senator, can at least hire a lawyer....

      Darlin,I am an ex Marine and have fought for our rights so believe me when I say I have the utmost respect and admiration for all who have served and do and to all who have lost due to serving.The whole point of this war on drugs though,is IT DOES NOT WORK! One of the reasons is that we (the gov't) picks and chooses who gets tested and who get ignored.Who we go after and who we get paid off from! The point is if we really do want to end drug abuse than we have to go in balls deep and have no reservations about who we bring down.PERIOD. All the way from the white house down to your everyday citizens.With that being said,I am also talking about cigarettes and alcohol since they are the biggest drug related killers in the world.Like I said,if we are going to do this than lets do it right and start with the worst and work our way down!

      Now since we know that will never happen due to how much money is made from it on both sides,we need to stop wasting time,money and man power on such bullshit things and start re-thinking what needs to be made legal and kept illegal.The prohibition didnt work and neither will this ridiculous war on drugs.

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      Most physicians are against the welfare drug testing due to scientific reasons. According to a 1996 study by the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, differences between the proportion of welfare and non-welfare recipients using illegal drugs are statistically insignificant.

      Before the Michigan policy was halted, only 10% of recipients tested positive for illicit drugs. Only 3% tested positive for hard drugs, such as cocaine and amphetamines – rates that are in line with the drug use rates of the general population.
      Seventy percent of all illicit drug users (and presumably a much higher percentage of alcohol users), ages 18-49, are employed full-time.

      Regarding the latter, I don't drug test my employees, if they can do their work, fine, if they can't, I fire them. If I have a pot head that can do her job very well, who cares. Plain and simple.

      I'm a dual citizen of China and USA ( long story). Once the government can violate what is the 4th amendment with "illegal searches" using drug testing, it opens the door for other searches. I know, because this is what they do back home. We chinese understand that drug abuse will always be rampant in a free market system. Mao , successfully eradicated my home country's addiction to Opium (3/4 of us were addicted) with ruthless drug testing, home searches and totalitarian efficiency. Now that free market capitalism is making it's way throughout after Deng's "Reaganization" of our economy, drug addiction is making a comeback. It is the price of a relatively free market economy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by F.I.S.T. View Post
      Darlin,I am an ex Marine and have fought for our rights so believe me when I say I have the utmost respect and admiration for all who have served and do and to all who have lost due to serving.The whole point of this war on drugs though,is IT DOES NOT WORK! One of the reasons is that we (the gov't) picks and chooses who gets tested and who get ignored.Who we go after and who we get paid off from! The point is if we really do want to end drug abuse than we have to go in balls deep and have no reservations about who we bring down.PERIOD. All the way from the white house down to your everyday citizens.With that being said,I am also talking about cigarettes and alcohol since they are the biggest drug related killers in the world.Like I said,if we are going to do this than lets do it right and start with the worst and work our way down!

      Now since we know that will never happen due to how much money is made from it on both sides,we need to stop wasting time,money and man power on such bullshit things and start re-thinking what needs to be made legal and kept illegal.The prohibition didnt work and neither will this ridiculous war on drugs.
      My hats off to you, my husband is ex 82nd Airborne from the first Iraqi war. Both my mom and dad were in Air AMerica during vietnam war ( my mom was Taiwanese but spoke vietnamese fluently and was an operative...yes Taiwan was on our side even though China technically supported the VCs). I agree, let's make drugs legal. If we legalize pot, we dessimate 80% of the mexican drug cartel. I have never had a pothead pull out IVs and throw nurses around the ICU because they were gong through DTs. I never treat wounds to a wife inflicted by a person smoking pot, the angry alcoholic gives all the trauma surgeons here good practice. Cocaine and meth are so individually destructive, they take out the individual quickly and remove them from pool for procreation. I think we can pay down the nationall debt if taxed and legalized drugs. Even the CDC has come out and stated alcohol is more destructive on society than any other drug...

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      Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
      Most physicians are against the welfare drug testing due to scientific reasons. According to a 1996 study by the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, differences between the proportion of welfare and non-welfare recipients using illegal drugs are statistically insignificant.

      Before the Michigan policy was halted, only 10% of recipients tested positive for illicit drugs. Only 3% tested positive for hard drugs, such as cocaine and amphetamines – rates that are in line with the drug use rates of the general population.
      Seventy percent of all illicit drug users (and presumably a much higher percentage of alcohol users), ages 18-49, are employed full-time.

      Regarding the latter, I don't drug test my employees, if they can do their work, fine, if they can't, I fire them. If I have a pot head that can do her job very well, who cares. Plain and simple.

      I'm a dual citizen of China and USA ( long story). Once the government can violate what is the 4th amendment with "illegal searches" using drug testing, it opens the door for other searches. I know, because this is what they do back home. We chinese understand that drug abuse will always be rampant in a free market system. Mao , successfully eradicated my home country's addiction to Opium (3/4 of us were addicted) with ruthless drug testing, home searches and totalitarian efficiency. Now that free market capitalism is making it's way throughout after Deng's "Reaganization" of our economy, drug addiction is making a comeback. It is the price of a relatively free market economy.

      I disagree about the amount of welfare recipients on drugs due to as you have yourself stated,in-sufficient testing proceedures among other reasons.I state this only due to dealing with many people who are on welfare and believe me,the large majority of them are on some form of drugs.

      As for what you are stating about Mao eradicaating drug addiction there,you have just re-itterated what I have stated,it can be done but we have to go at it 100%.Whether you feel its right or not how it got done in China,it DID get done and thats the point.The only way to stop it is going complete N A Z I gov't and taking away everyone's freedom's.Of course this is not what I believe should happen but thats irrelevant.If we are truly about eliminating all drug use/abuse than this would be the only way.Once again,I mean starting with tobacco and alcohol and working our way down.Just because the gov't decided that tobacco and alcohol make them too much money and should be legal does not change the proven facts that they are our TOP KILLERS! So if its all about "SAVING US" than we have to start with those do we not?

      So once again,its time to re-think this war on drugs and start doing whats really best for us,ur gov't and our world.

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      We both agree the only way to eradicate drug problem is to **** our government, but it will never happen. The government is bloated with DEA agents who spend so much of their time chasing low level marijuana dealers, so they have a vested interest in keeping things illegal, even though studies now show marijuana is not a gateway drug. As someone who deals with drug users at Grady hospital in Atlanta, I agree. New Research Suggests Marijuana is NOT Gateway Drug as Believed | Addicts NOT Anonymous. I still disagree about welfare recipients, since we were one of those families. When my dad was rescued from 5 years of torture in a Vietnamese P.O.W camp, I am pretty sure he hit some pot to deal with his PTSD. If they had take away our welfare, my two siblings and I probably never would have made it to college....

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      Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
      We both agree the only way to eradicate drug problem is to **** our government, but it will never happen. The government is bloated with DEA agents who spend so much of their time chasing low level marijuana dealers, so they have a vested interest in keeping things illegal, even though studies now show marijuana is not a gateway drug. As someone who deals with drug users at Grady hospital in Atlanta, I agree. New Research Suggests Marijuana is NOT Gateway Drug as Believed | Addicts NOT Anonymous. I still disagree about welfare recipients, since we were one of those families. When my dad was rescued from 5 years of torture in a Vietnamese P.O.W camp, I am pretty sure he hit some pot to deal with his PTSD. If they had take away our welfare, my two siblings and I probably never would have made it to college....

      God bless your father for what he has gone through and the utmost respect goes out to him.But this is my point,its not about not testing welfare recipients,its about testing anyone.If we were to go all out,yes many people would be hurt,inconvenienced and freedoms taken away but that would be the only way to make it happen.Since we all can agree that that would never happen especially when it came time to investigate the so called "powers that be" then it should be needless to say that legalizing,taxing and better monitoring of who uses would be the best way to solve the drug problems of the world.Most importantly educating everyone on them and stop trying to HIDE everyone from them.

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