Tweetmight as well skip the clomid in the middle, and stay on, you wont recover.
TweetI'm going to start this in 2 weeks or so:
weeks 1-10 enenthate 1000mg/w
weeks 1-10 deca 600mg/w
weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg/d
weeks 12-15 Clomid therapy with DNP bridge
weeks 16-25 enenthate 250mg/w
weeks 16-25 eq 800mg week
weeks 16-21 fina 75mg/d
weeks 22-27 winny 50mg/d
weeks 28-31 Clomid therapy
I had some other cycles worked up but this one gets me gitty just thinking about it
Tweetmight as well skip the clomid in the middle, and stay on, you wont recover.
TweetThat's a lot of gear. What are your stats bro?
TweetAs of today I am 6' 215lbs 10-12% bf. I am at the end of a DNP cycle so the bf might even be a little lower because of bloat.
TweetI doubt your fully recovered by wk 15, but maybe thats not your goal of it. Its wise to have some sort of natural test stimulation, which you will by that.
I think it looks good.
TweetI really don't see a point in trying to do 3 weeks of Clomid in the middle with DNP. I would personally just stay on and use HCG.
week 5 5000iu HCG - another 5000iu 5 days later
week 12, 5000iu HCG - another 5000iu 5 days after
week 19 5000iu HCG - another 5000iu 5 days after
Also, dropping the test from 1gm a week down to 250mg's a week is not the best thing to do. Your body isn't going to respond to 250.
TweetThe reason I am dropping the test down for the second half is because I want to cut up, the only reason it is there is so my dick still works. Another possiblity is running the test at 750mg for the first half and 500mg for the second. But I think that the extra 250mg would be better in the first half where I plan to eat like a mofo and bulk up.
TweetMore isn't always better, how many cycles have you done?
TweetAlso on a side note, you can still cut on test. The test will likely cause water weight so if that's the problem then I would suggest that you use arimidex to counteract it.
TweetI have femara on hand and will be using it throughout the first half to keep the water off. I find that on a high dose of test I have a problem losing that last little bit of fat on the lower abdomen and love handles even with anti-e's. I think the doses of the eq, winny, and fina should be enough to cut up and still see some lean mass and strength gains. I have done 6 cycles thus far.
TweetOkay, you're obviously experienced so do you really think that you need 1gm of Test to achieve what you want? You know your body best and what it responds to. Winny/Tren/Eq should be enough.
TweetWell there are 2 reasons the doses are the way they are for the test. #1 I got QV enentat and I have gone as high as 750mg/w using theramex which is a lot better quality so the dose compensates for it being mexican #2 I got the 50ml jug and I want to use it all considering I wont be cycling for about 6 months or so after this is done. Actually all the injects except the tren which is homemade are QV and the orals are IP.
TweetOriginally posted by LIBeef
As of today I am 6' 215lbs 10-12% bf. I am at the end of a DNP cycle so the bf might even be a little lower because of bloat.
Well, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to run their life lol, but I seriously think you're not nearly big enough for a gram of test, plus all that other stuff.
I'm not trying to flame or be disrespectful in any way, I'm just giving you my opinion. I'm on a gram of test and nothing else except a dbol kickstart, and I outweigh you by about 85 pounds.
Just my opinion, but I'd say drop your doses and up your protein.
Tweetgoing with this....i would only change one thing, start clomid week 13 cuz deca takes 3 weeks to get out, but it doesn't look like your trying to fully recover just to get it going again.....throwing hcg in there wouldn't be a bad idea eitherOriginally posted by Billy_Bathgate
I doubt your fully recovered by wk 15, but maybe thats not your goal of it. Its wise to have some sort of natural test stimulation, which you will by that.
I think it looks good.
TweetIn defense to the doses all the injects except for the fina are QV and the orals are IP. I have taken 750mg/w of theramex which was of a lot better quality and noticed a huge difference between that 500mg. My abs are showing and I am still a little bloated from a DNP cycle I just ended, so I am a lean 215lbs. I am hoping to be a lean 235lbs when this ends.Originally posted by slobberknocker
Well, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to run their life lol, but I seriously think you're not nearly big enough for a gram of test, plus all that other stuff.
I'm not trying to flame or be disrespectful in any way, I'm just giving you my opinion. I'm on a gram of test and nothing else except a dbol kickstart, and I outweigh you by about 85 pounds.
Just my opinion, but I'd say drop your doses and up your protein.