wait to be un-shut down from Deca before new cycle?

[minotaur]

TweetI did a 10-week cycle of only deca for the first time. I know ... big mistake. So I did all the PCT. Two months after my last shot a blood test showed my test to be at 86. He tested again a week ago and I was up to 118. Doc says normal test is anywhere between 200-800. I'm not feeling as shut down, but still not back to normal. I'm really anxious to start another cycle of eq and sust this time. Should I continue to wait for test to get back up there? Should I just jump right in and worry about getting my natural test back later?

[FUZO]

TweetI SUGGEST TO RECOVER FIRST.TIME ON TIME OFF MOST OF THE TIME.HOW OLD ARE YOU

[O2BESOHUGE]

TweetWHEN EVER I RUN DECA....I USE HCG AT THE MID POINT OF THE CYCLE AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE THE END BEFORE CLOMID THERAPY. THEN YOU WONT BE SHUT DOWN QUITE SO BAD AND WILL RECOVER FASTER.

O2

[mick-G]

TweetI know you know that you should always run the test with deca, but I would wait till at least your test shows at least 150 range. Wait another three wk at least. I know it is hard if you want to start, but your body will thank you. I don't know how old you are, but if you young and maybe want to have kids later you need to protect yourself. It probably don't seem like anything you might be thinking about now, but you don't want to regret it later.

[minotaur]

TweetI'm 29.

Do you think it's too late to do more HCG?

[mick-G]

TweetNo it is not too late. But it depends on your priorities? Can you not wait to do another cycle?, or do you want to get your test levels back to normal? Do you know what your test levels were like before this cycle? Is this dr you see an endrocronologist, or just a regular md checking your test levels? If you are truely interested in help, see an endrocronologist, as he can prescribe several tests on your blood and a sperm analysis to check if the sperm has been affected ( mobility, count, LH levels, abnormalities etc.) Once these tests are done and the results gone over with you by the Dr., he can then draw a conclusion for treatment if needed. Many dr.'s prescribe Pregnyl HCG by Organon, but it must be used in specific dosages and time length for results. If you do happen to get your test levels back to normal and then go back on a cycle, chances are your normal test will be affected again and sperm. That is why ppl go on pct. If it were me I would go to the endro first to run the tests and followup with he or she going over the results of the testing, then go from there. The biggest question for you would be, are you planning on children in the future?? If not then it doesn't matter. If it does then definitely do the testing. If you do decide to do cycle again do proper anti-es during and pct for required time for recovery.

[prot]

TweetDoes anyone have a study or reference regarding the fact that sperm production will be shut down permanently by doing a cycle again before complete recovery? I was under the impression that test usage was not an adequate birth control method and that people still got pregnant when their mate was "on".

I have read that viagra causes infertility by damaging sperm.

[mick-G]

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Originally posted by prot
Does anyone have a study or reference regarding the fact that sperm production will be shut down permanently by doing a cycle again before complete recovery? I was under the impression that test usage was not an adequate birth control method and that people still got pregnant when their mate was "on".

I have read that viagra causes infertility by damaging sperm.

No one should use aas as a form of birth control, as one can still conceive if using. I could probably find studies on this, but it would be time consuming. My suggestion would be to do a search on your comp. and see if you can find something on it.