What to ask for? Blood Work

[rude]

TweetOkay, I have decided to visit a doctor to get my blood work done, but I dont have insurance, and I dont know what to ask for. So, what would I ask the doc to check for? What kind of Blood work? Also, for those that have gotten their blood work done, and dont have insurance, what would you estimate the price would be?

[mick10-07]

TweetIts pretty cheap. All you need is cholesterol and liver function tests. You have to specify if you want test counts. Ask for the 0-1000 scale test if you want.(for test levels)

thats really all you need.

[AZ1]

Tweetgoin to the doc may be an expensive way to go compared to directlabs, I saw the bill for all the shit my doc drew on me and it was like 470 bucks. for a complete metabolic panel, complete blood count, igf1, total and free testosterone, and estradiol. Before we tell you what you need to ask for you need to tell us exactly what it is you want to check! Liver and kidneys, testosterone, blood count, cholesterol, electrolytes, estrogen etc??

[FUZO]

TweetCOMPLETE CBC WITH LIVER ,KIDNEY ,THYROID FUCTION

[Pheedno]

TweetCBC should inlcude liver and kidney function. You have to supplement a testosterone panel(dont just get Total Test) and possibly a thyroid panel

[prot]

TweetWhy spend the money at all? The tests will tell you what? You should be able to tel if you are recovering properly and cholesterol tests are worthless and liver tests are of no value unless you are turning yellow. Some liver enzymes are elevated by exercise and even if you had damage it can repair itself. If you go to a doctor none of these is too cheap and unless you tell him/her what you need you will not be able to interpret it well.

[Drenten]

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Originally posted by prot
Why spend the money at all? The tests will tell you what?

The tests are used as a diagnostic tool to help you get feedback as to what the impact is of the particular drugs that you are using. Without the tests you could be causing all kinds of damage to your body; damage that could be avoided by simply switching to another drug that isn’t as harsh on your body.

With me, Anadrol and Winstrol cause my blood tests to get way out of range, but D-bol, even in really big dosages, doesn’t cause much of a change. Without getting regular blood tests I would never have known how bad Anadrol was for me personally, and I could have spent years worth of cycles causing unnecessary damage to my liver.

Many can use Anadrol without any problem – I can’t. Many can’t use D-bol – I can. Without the information from blood tests you have know tangible way of knowing.

[Pheedno]

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Originally posted by prot
Why spend the money at all? The tests will tell you what? You should be able to tel if you are recovering properly and cholesterol tests are worthless and liver tests are of no value unless you are turning yellow. Some liver enzymes are elevated by exercise and even if you had damage it can repair itself. If you go to a doctor none of these is too cheap and unless you tell him/her what you need you will not be able to interpret it well.

With base line numbers, testing is absolutely a worthy dollar spent. How do you know your recovered with out testing? Because your balls are big and you have erections
Liver enzymes are elevated for many reasons, but thats why you have to do a GGT/CK comaprison to your ALT and AST.
Cholesterol check worthless? I was quite satisifed with my decesion to have blood work down when i found out my HDL was in the teens with letro administration. With L-dex, I see no adverse effects. And before you say, it doesn't matter, one test shows nothing, it takes many tests of consistant numbers to difinitively nail down a concern. I get blood work once a month while on.

Prot, I think you just find it satisfying to disagree with a majority, you do the exact same thing on AR. Hey, doesn't bother me any, gives the rest of us a chance to state exactly why our recommendations are correct.

[Governor]

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Originally posted by prot
Why spend the money at all? The tests will tell you what? You should be able to tel if you are recovering properly and cholesterol tests are worthless and liver tests are of no value unless you are turning yellow. Some liver enzymes are elevated by exercise and even if you had damage it can repair itself. If you go to a doctor none of these is too cheap and unless you tell him/her what you need you will not be able to interpret it well.

no one listen to this, this is completely and utterly wrong. Blood tests are a must for steroid users.

[Pheedno]

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Originally posted by Colorao
Oof, ldex killed my lipids. The tren didnt help either. =)

Were you using a SERM alongside it?

[prot]

TweetSo from this advice on the thread we discover that all steroid users must have blood tests and they must have them often to establish a baseline. Who pays for all these. I just don't think its practical.

I am intouch with my body..it already told me anadrol doesnt agree with me and dbol is ok, It also tells me I don't need any anti E because I never exceed 750mg test a week and I get no bloat and no gyno. Anti es destroy my libido also and from what I read they usually are bad for your lipids (although this is overrated as a problem because real heart disease has nothing to do with cholesterol)....I know what gear works for me from trial and error..like everyone learns. Expensive blood tests are a luxury I cant afford and most insurers wont pay for them ..my last one only authorized them every 5 years.

Impractical advice is confusing and I do not advocate bullshit just because the concensus is that bullshit smells good.

Pheedno I have the greatest respect for Big Cat, who set you straight in the sticky on "fina cough". He is an expert and will explain why antie are not neccessary if you read BB.com and do a search on "Why anties are not neccessary".

I don't contribute much because these boards are full of people who don't think, just regurgitate myths and fables about steroids. Sonmetimes I wonder if most have even used. I have and my body tells me no anadrol and no tren. These are things I learned by trying them...I have had years of experience and "steroid experts" only exist where they are open to learning new things and listening to others opinions.

[mick10-07]

TweetAnyway........I only get tested once a year, after doing about 3 cycles. Your body will let you know if something is wrong. This isn't rocket science, pay attention to your body and get checked if you feel you need to.

why waste money when you dont have too.

[prot]

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Originally posted by mick10-07
Anyway........I only get tested once a year, after doing about 3 cycles. Your body will let you know if something is wrong. This isn't rocket science, pay attention to your body and get checked if you feel you need to.

why waste money when you dont have too.

Knowing your body is the key...

I don't contribute much because ignorance like Colorao's is endemic on these boards where any opinion not agreeing with the majority is deemed wrong and "negative". Being unable to appreciate differences of opinion is truly a sign of an uneducated mind.

I could afford blood tests but I'd rather spend my money on supplements to make me healthier, rather than on lab results which really don't inform but just raise questions. Incidentally, people being afraid to question anything said by an "authority" is why we will spend 200 billion dollars in Iraq on Bush's folly. It ios also the reason Bush is pushing anti steroid bullshit to cater to the uneducated masses who buy into the myths of steroid use. I am quite negative when it comes to ignorance...

[Pheedno]

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Originally posted by prot
Knowing your body is the key...

I don't contribute much because ignorance like Colorao's is endemic on these boards where any opinion not agreeing with the majority is deemed wrong and "negative". Being unable to appreciate differences of opinion is truly a sign of an uneducated mind.

I could afford blood tests but I'd rather spend my money on supplements to make me healthier, rather than on lab results which really don't inform but just raise questions. Incidentally, people being afraid to question anything said by an "authority" is why we will spend 200 billion dollars in Iraq on Bush's folly. It ios also the reason Bush is pushing anti steroid bullshit to cater to the uneducated masses who buy into the myths of steroid use. I am quite negative when it comes to ignorance...

How intuitive and noble of you to exclude yourself from the boards for fear of curing(or is it contributing) this "epidemic"

I understand your opinion on blood work. I do think your wrong, at least to the extent of measuring recovery. If I'm introducing a new drug, I like to know exactly what it's effect is. If you were to only administer X number of compounds on every cycle, then I think a pre and post cycle CBC and testosterone panel would be suffecient, but to denounce the notion of blood work all together is pretty ignorant. I take this pretty serious though. I'm my own experiment; kind of like a hobby.
Also, considering what a cycle costs, blood work is pretty inexpensive(about $90 without ins.)

"questioning authority" as you put it is a healthy thing, I agree on that, but I do feel it's subject dependant.

You seem very angry and defensive prot

[Pheedno]

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