the "never needs a 6 pack cycle" (critiques welcome)

[NeverSatisfied]

Tweetstats: 3rd cycle. training for 5 years. 6 240 (15-20% and cutting) first cycles were test/eq and test/fina. goals for this one are to cut bodyfat, harden up, and maintain my muscle mass. planning to start begining of feb. will be following ckd. as of now i'm thinking:

1-13 500 mg test enth/ ew
1-2 1000 mg eq (frontload) / ew
3-12 600 mg eq / ew
4-6 20 mg methyl-1 test / ed
10-15 50 mg winny / ed

clen 2 on 2 off throughout

anti es and post cycle:

1-17 12.5 mg aromasin / ed
1-14 10 mg nolva / ed
15 HCG 1000iu x5 (end 2 days before clomid starts)
15-20 40mg nolv for 3 weeks, 20 for 2 weeks, 10 for 1 weeks
16-18 300mg clomid day 1, 100 for 10 days, 50 for ten days

i know i could add in some t3, but i don't think i'm quite ready for it yet. also considering switching test to prop around week 10 but haven't decided yet. any other suggestions or comments welcome. thanx

[NeverSatisfied]

Tweetalso, i know some would say to do hcg at 500 iu 2 days a week but in my current situation with my gf, keeping it in the fridge for that long is just not possible. i want to use it at the end just to get the boys back quick and let pct take over. i am just going to keep it in a cooler for 5 days.

[digital]

Tweetlooks good,but why eq 3-12 instead of 1-12?i usually keep my test higher than eq but i am insecure

well researched

[orion76]

TweetLooks good, personally I'd run prop throughout instead of the enan but I'm a masochist who likes needles

[CaliBeachBum51]

Tweeti agree w/ orion76 about the switch to test prop.... i usually use test enan on a bulking cycle cuz i get pretty watery with it and the test prop during the cuttin cuz i get like 0 water retention with the prop.... plus, i just like needles too...

[BossDJ02]

Tweeti also agree with orion. prop is awsome stuff.

[orion76]

TweetDo you guys also get that feeling while on cycle if there's a day w/o an injection you feel like something is missing?

[bowbow]

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Originally posted by orion76
Do you guys also get that feeling while on cycle if there's a day w/o an injection you feel like something is missing?

Unfortunately I think I'm in the minority on this. Twice a week is plenty for me at this point.

[NeverSatisfied]

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Originally posted by digital
looks good,but why eq 3-12 instead of 1-12?i usually keep my test higher than eq but i am insecure

well researched

well i am running it 1-12, but for the sake of simplicity, i separated the frontload. it will be like this:

1-12 600mg eq per week(first 2 weeks will be 1gram frontload)

[NeverSatisfied]

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Originally posted by orion76
Looks good, personally I'd run prop throughout instead of the enan but I'm a masochist who likes needles

i considered it, but i wanted to run a longer cycle(then the ones i've ran in the past) and when i did my test/fina cycle, i felt like a pin cushion after 8 weeks. i think i can only handle lots of injections for so long. so i wanted to keep the volume to a minium at least for part of my cycle. i might switch to prop at then end though to "finish strong" while the long ethers are still in me and allow for better recovery. still deciding though.


thanx for the input