Tweetnot bad, have you ran deca before at 500? I dont like deca much, but when i do run it I like more mg of test than deca. exp 500 test and 300 deca or 600 test and 500 deca. just my $.02

TweetI personally hate deca so no way that'd be in my cycle but I'd up the test to 600 or drop deca to 400. Also I'd prob stop the deca after week 10 or 11 at the latest. Why the kickstart with prop and dbol? Seems like throwing money away to me? Eq would need to be run for considerably longer than 12 weeks so unless you want to run the cycle out longer I wouldnt add it in. I would also reconsider deca, with BF% at 15 already why run a comound thats going to bloat the s out of you? I think your better off if running as a 12 weeker:

1-6 Dbol (bulking phase)
1-12 Test
7-12 Winny,Var, or Tbol (leaning out phase)

But thats JMO, I dont like the idea of runnning a true bulker for 12 weeks with BF already a little on the high side.

Tweetwhat skinny said... need to run eq a min of 16 weeks, i had better luck with it on 20 weeks, but you may not be up to that yet. take it slow and let it work for you! more is not aways better!

Tweeti would lower the deca dosage to about 350mg. ive gotten the best results when i ran it at 2mg per lb of lean body mass. and i agree with alluprbody in that im a little old school when it comes to jumpstarts so id go with dbol or test prop not both. it might save you a little cash. just my thought but i hope it helps.

TweetI'm thinking I will drop the prop

Tweetbadcompany,

idk if you read md or not but in the dec 2011 issue there is an article about deca and how it may weaken tendons and collagen. check it out, it may help you re-think whatever weight and rep program you have layed out. best of luck on your cycle bro

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Originally Posted by badcompany487

I'm thinking I will drop the prop

Def bro the drol is a better kickstart IMO

Tweetjust started this today!!!

Tweetsweet, what was the final selection?

Tweet500 mg test c a week started weeks 1-4 with prop, I'm running the dbol at 30 mgs a week and deca at 300 a week

TweetI might only run prop for 3 weeks

TweetOh and winny for weeks 6 to 12 and no eq

Tweetare you predisposed to hair loss? If so prepare for it as winny is straight dht and is rough on the hairline if predisposed to it. Id atleast run nizoral shampoo.