First cycle Dbol/Test/Winny???

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 05:39 PM

Well - As i posted in some earlier threads im doing a cycle after SB and i want to bulk and then lean up a little right at the end.

So my idea was

Dbol 40mg ED weeks 1-4
Test enth 500mg weeks 1-12
Winny 50mg ED weeks 4-12
nolva on hand
clomid post cycle

These products were the choice cuz im ordering for me and a buddy and hes doing a cycle for football so its cheaper to get bigger quanitys

**HeHateMe** · 03-18-2003, 05:47 PM

i think you could just do the enthanate at 500mg for the 12 weeks and get fantastic results...save the other stuff for your next cycle

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 05:49 PM

but if i do it all what will happen (just wondering not being stubborn) or just the winny and skip the dbol

**HeHateMe** · 03-18-2003, 06:05 PM

if you wanted to...you could still kick start the cycle with d bol the first four weeks...i don't believe you'd need 40mg/d though...25 would suffice...

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 06:06 PM

ok what if i skipped the dbol and did the winny ???

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 06:07 PM

sorry im just gonna have all this gear looking me in the face

and i know how im gonna be with it so i gotta know why i shouldnt lol

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 06:30 PM

ok will i make gains on the cycle i have posted ????

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 06:30 PM

or the cycle i posted without the dbol

**HeHateMe** · 03-18-2003, 06:36 PM

you'd make gains on either...it's just not necessary at this point...just go with the Test @ 500mg/wk and the Dbol @ 25mg/d for the first four weeks...you'll be extremely pleased...i only did Deca @ 450mg/wk for 10 weeks my 1st cycle and gained roughly 12-15 lbs...and you're doing TEST which is probably twice as strong as deca mg for mg

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 06:38 PM

ok sounds good what would i gain on test/winny???

**Josh** · 03-18-2003, 07:33 PM

bump

skeeber · 03-19-2003, 09:06 AM

My first cycle is test/d-bol/winny. I am on my eighth week. I highly recommend the 25mg/day d-bol kick start. That was the best part of my cycle. I have since leveled off. That is because my test dosage was too small (350mg/week).

I don't see your stats, but if you are similar in size to me I think your dosages are fine (except d-bol, do 25mg). Just don't run orals straight through. Start your winny in week eight. Your liver will thank you. If you want to keep the bloat down you might consider arimidex. I had it but didn't need it with my dosages.

ITJ · 03-19-2003, 05:26 PM

I would not run 17AA for 12 weeks straight - that would be pretty hard on your liver. If you want to run both the winny and Dbol in the same cycle, I would do dbol 1-4 then give your liver a break and run the winny 8-14. This would allow you to still have a high amount of androgens in your body while you are waiting to start your post cycle therapy.

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