TweetI like them both and winny is one of my favorites but it always makes my wrists hurt. The best thing to combat that is probably deca, but deca will add more water to you so eq is best for your goals. Maybe throw some prop in there if you can afford to. Also, take some glucosamine chronditin for the joint pain, it should help somewhat. Winny at 50mg ed split into two doses would be ideal.

TweetFORGET THE WINNY AND USE TREN-E AND EQ AND TEST,OR USE PROP AND EQ.I'M ON TREN-E AND CYP RIGHT NOW AND PREETY MUCH CUT UP.IF MY DIET WAS IN CHECK JUST A LITTLE MORE I WOULD BE RIPPED ON THAT CYCLE OF 500MG OF CYP AND 300MG OF TREN-E

TweetIf thats what you have in inventory right now, i would agree with JS. Personally, along with that, i would throw in the sus as well. A daily sup of mine is Osteo Bi-Flex Triple Stength. Been taking for over a year and since then i have not had any issues with joints

TweetI'm on EQ & Test right now, and I guess from sweatin in the hot sun, I have some decent striations going on. That EQ is mostly responsible for it. I look hard and vascular. I don't wanna stop. I wanna double down on the EQ actually.
I just ran some strong winny a couple months ago, and it killed my shoulders and wrists for the 1st time. And I was running a respectable dose of test. I just couldn't take that winny. It was good, but painful.
EQ and winny will always make for leaner gains. Tren will too, as Fuzo mentioned. Whichever route you go. Just make sure you throw a little test in there.
EQ for about 5-6months should make for a leaner you. with the whole 'diet/training/rest' thing too.

Tweetprop,tren, and EQ works great. never did like winny cuz of it dryn ur joints n shit out.. if anything i would def thro some test prop in there bro at 100mg eod.....

TweetWell I might have to make another order before I start a cycle... That is if I run some type of test with it. So just say I ran the winny and eq , how long to run the winny? 2 weeks every day? And the eq? I have the EQ 200 .

Or scratch the EQ and run a winny only cycle ...Take proper time off and then run EQ & Test. Maybe run EQ & Sus at that point. I am pretty lean right now and have gained pretty lean muscle. But I need a little boost & the motivation factor.

Tweeti agree with Fuzo, run tren and test. running eq and win is like counterproductive. If you dot want to do all the injects run the long esters. it still will be better than the eq/win for sure and if your trying to loose bf, there is no better combo for a male from what ive seen and heard. deca will make u puffy and retain water ad i dont think thats your goal from what your saying. if you want to avoid the common atrophy run some hcg along with it and alittle proviron. like 500IU hcg 2-3 time a wk and proviron one tab a day 25mg. Even if you run tren at a moderate dosage, you will see much faster hardness and lean muscle mass faster than with eq.

Tweetthere is nothing better for motivation then a good ol bottle of tren bro... even at 75mg eod would lean and harden u up.. plus great strength gains..

TweetEhhhhhhhhhhh... I have no tren....LOL ... I will get some though... I have a few weeks before I am going to start a cycle anyway. What is a normal cycle of tren? Should I run it with Test Prop, Enanthate, Cyp? How long to run this cycle?

Tweetdont run a cycle if you dont have test to throw inthere

TweetI have never ran Winny before but why is it so popular if it sucks in the real world? What is it's main purpose. Please school me on this. I have ran EQ & Test with great results. But thought I could run EQ & Winny. Always heard winny would help cut you up and get better pumps while working out. I need to go back to AAS School.

Tweettake 500mg of test cyp or enthenate and add 300-400 of tren-e and your fine. if you want to add prop at 100mg thats cool also. 2x a week and its all good.I'll pm you some info

500mg-cyp
300mg-tren-e
100mg-prop


as for eq and winny,eq has to be ran for a long time and winny max imo is 8 weeks max I woukldnt go any longer. ive always done 6 weeks but like everyone says your joints take a hit and start hurting.


A PROP AND EQ IS FINE 3X A WEEK SHOTS. SO YOU WOULD BE GETTING 300MG OF PROP AND IF THE QE\\EQ IS DOSED AT 250MG THEN 750MG A WEEK AND THAT CYCLE IS GREAT AND THE RESULTS WILL ALSO BE GREAT.BUT I WOULD DO THE CYP-TREN-E,THAT CUT ME UP I LOST BF% GOT STRONG AS HELL MAN. YOU DONT NEED ALOT OF TREN-E IMO FOR IT TO WORK AFTER IVE BEEN TAKING ONLY 300MG A WEEK. I THINK NOW THERS SO MUCH OTHER STUFF BETTER THEN WINNY THAT I WOULDNT USE IT ANYMORE

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Originally Posted by BICEPBULG

I have never ran Winny before but why is it so popular if it sucks in the real world? What is it's main purpose. Please school me on this. I have ran EQ & Test with great results. But thought I could run EQ & Winny. Always heard winny would help cut you up and get better pumps while working out. I need to go back to AAS School.

Winny is popular to some folks for whatever reason???maybe they really haven't much winny under their belt? I use to like winny. It is good at a certain point in a cycle, and when you have reached a certain build. Other than that, wonny sucks ass. I will never waste time or money on winny again. Being you have to be in a perfect place, physique wise, for winny's noticable results, it's garbage to me "in the real world."
You said you've ran EQ & Test with great results. You'll always get 'em with that combo. Test and tren, as Fuzo, Michelle, and whoever else have mentioned, will do you like you wanna be done, and then some. A winny only cycle is a complete waste.

To answer your other question; winny's main purpose is to just dry your body out i.e. muscles and joints, etc...That's it. Winny only is not anything you'd write home about.