well i c what ur saying....im not really looking to add 15+ lbs. Thats why i decided to go with the tbol rather than test or dbol. I tend to gain real fast on the gear. I gained 25 lbs. the first cycle with only 10cc's of sus (250mg) and 10cc's of deca (100mg).... 1 cc each/per week. If i went with test or dbol im afraid i might get more than i wanted.