And thank you again for the information and direction. This wouldn't have happened so rapidly without your guidance.
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I DO HAVE TO SAY THE WIFE AND I DID INVETRO AND I WAS ON WHEN MY WIFE GOT PREGNANT
See, out of just a few guys, we have a couple of successful pregnancies. That's a pretty good ratio right there that says otherwise of AS's ability as a birth preventative.
Back in 2005 I had been on for two years straight basically for competitions. The wife (at the time) was ready for kids and so was I. I went off for about 4 months and after trying and trying I went to the doc to get a count done on my sperm.
BIG FAT ZERO.... Yep, zero sperm.
I emailed Dave Palumbo and got his advice. He gave me a regimen with HCG and Clomid that within two months I was just shy of normal range.
The wife and I eventually went to a fertility doc and did AI and ended up having twins out of the ordeal.
So in my case the aas caused mine to drop to zero.
three and a half years ago i went off my cycle...test deca and eq and after 4 months off my girlfriend got pregnant....about a year and a half ago i got tested one month after off another cycle and my test levels were very very low so it might depend on your body and definiately doesnt seem to be permanent at all
I ALSO HAD A ZERO COUNT FOR 3 MONTHS THEN IT CAME BACK SLOWLY. IT WAS THE DECA THAT DID IT FOR ME
I'm going to give the doc a call tomorrow and see if my results are in. Keep your fingers crossed for me. He might not tell me any details until my appointment Monday afternoon. Hopefully somone will cancel and I can slide in there before the weekend though.
Man they're killin me down there. I went yesterday. All results were in except the ones we're concerned about. Rescheduled for this morning. Still not in. They called down to the lab and the results will be delayed til mid week next week. They're having technical difficulties. My levels are probably so low that they think their equipment is broken,lol.
Damn.
I found this little tid-bit at ask Alice.
Alice,
I was wondering what information you have on the male birth control pill and when it could possibly be released on the market.
Thank you,
Sam
Dear Sam,
Finally, a male birth control pill, right? Well... almost. As clinical trials (research studies) continue in Europe and the United States, developers believe we will see this "wonder drug" on pharmacy shelves in about five to seven years.
So, what's taking so long? For one thing, scientists have found it challenging to control the male reproductive system. Women have a reproductive system regulated by a menstrual cycle, and are fertile for about 48-hours a month. (However, at exactly what point that 48-hour period of fertility will be during the month is unknown.) Scientists were able to develop the birth control pill, also known as oral contraceptives (OCs), based on the regularity of menstruation. Unlike women, men produce new sperm 24/7, through a process called spermatogenesis, at a rate of one-half billion sperm each day. Because of this male body phenomenon, developing an effective and reversible hormonal contraceptive for men, such as a male birth control pill, continues to challenge researchers.
In these studies, at least five different approaches to temporarily decrease or cease sperm production and function have been considered. They include:
In the man:
preventing sperm production
interfering with sperm function
interrupting sperm transport
In the woman partner:
preventing effective sperm deposit
blocking sperm-egg interaction
Of these strategies, decreasing or preventing sperm production by using testosterone, the primary male sex hormone, either alone or in combination with another type of sex hormone called progestin, have shown the most promising results.
A pill containing synthetic testosterone and progestin taken by men in a clinical trial conducted in Italy showed evidence of lowering males' sperm counts to very low levels (below 3 million sperm per milliliter of ejaculate). Half of the participants had sperm counts of zero after taking this pill. It was also demonstrated to cause few undesirable side effects. In another type of research study, testosterone injections were administered in conjunction with combined progestin and testosterone pills. This was shown to be more effective than use of testosterone injections alone.
Either way, this extra surge of testosterone is designed to interfere with a complex sequence of hormonal reactions that begin in the brain and end in the testes, resulting in sperm production. To get more technical, this extra dose of testosterone withholds the amount of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) secreted by the hypothalamus in the brain. GnRH stimulates the release of hormones called gonadotropins from the pituitary gland, which is also in the brain. Gonadotropins are hormones essential in signaling the testes to produce sperm. So, the suppression of GnRH ultimately results in preventing sperm production in the male and, as a result, helps to prevent pregnancy in the woman partner.
Maximum contraceptive effectiveness, however, was not possible right away for any of the above mentioned combinations because it can take as much as 2 to 3 months for sperm counts to reach very low levels. This translates into a need for men or couples to plan in advance. In addition, the studies that involved a weekly injection schedule were shown to be particularly impractical. Because of this, other ways to improve the use and effectiveness of new male contraceptives are being investigated, including longer-acting male contraception that can deliver testosterone for 2 to 3 months. Also in development are testosterone-derivative implants and a vaccine that would be designed to prevent pregnancy for up to a year.
Even though a male birth control pill may seem like a great innovation, not all men agree. Some are nervous about the possible side effects that have resulted from a few of these clinical trials, which have included:
mood swings
aggressiveness
lack of libido
acne
weight gain
lowered high density lipoprotein (HDL, the good cholesterol) levels
impotence
long-term infertility
An effective male "pill" would undoubtedly put more of the responsibility for contraception on men, a possibility that goes against what men and women in many cultures have been used to. Male discomfort with this notion, along with the time and high cost of conducting clinical trials, are likely key reasons why funding for research about this topic has been low, postponing development of, and access to, a male birth control pill.
The contraceptive methods currently available for men are the condom and vasectomy. In the future, the male birth control pill may become easier for men and the rest of society to swallow.
For more information about future contraceptive options, you can check out Planned Parenthood's Male Contraception: What Does the Future Hold? web site.
Alice
And thanks for the post FitterX. I figured that it took a couple months for sperm counts to drop.
horsepwr, keep us posted bro.
I'm interested to see how this goes for you.