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      just curious if you agree with this answer or not....

      Q: I realize that I'm probably not being tested for steroids but I make too much money to lose my job just to get big.... Anyway... Recently I've been prescribed Androgel for my low testosterone levels. Knowing that I have a prescription I was wondering if I could add some Sustanon or testosterone enanthate to that. I pretty much want to know if you can tell the difference in testosterone on a drug test? Cause I know they have slightly different esters and molecules. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

      A: Let me start off with a little background first. There is a way to identify synthetic testosterone on a test, but it is not simple. Typically what happens during an IOC steroid screen is that they will first look at the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone in the urine, another natural hormone normally made in the body with testosterone in a 1:1 ratio. If this ratio fails because it is abnormally high (> 4:1), a second (much more thorough) carbon isotope test is conducted to see if the testosterone in your body was actually of natural origin or if it is the result of a synthetic drug. It is the complexity of this test that has kept it from being used as a first line of defense. All of the drugs you mentioned including Androgel would come up as synthetic during this test, and cause a failure.

      I think the main issues here are IF you are going to be drug tested, and IF you fail will your prescription cover you for your job even if taking other forms of testosterone. The reality is, your job will not be able to tell if you are using Sustanon, enanthate, or your prescribed Androgel. So in this regard you are safe. If you are taking a sufficient dose of any, however, they might be able to tell that you are using some form of synthetic testosterone in high amounts. With such a scenario, an extremely high T/E ratio would be hard to explain, even with a prescription. Realistically, however, the practice of testing for anabolic steroids in the workplace is extremely rare. The level of testing required would also have to be on par with the very costly and lengthy testing procedure of an Olympic or top competitive athlete. In this case you do have a script as well, which can probably be used as an explanation for any potential failure due to synthetic testosterone, provided your employer is not the IOC, or is not outright trying to catch you using gear.

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      yep.. i agree with that.
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      yup

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      yeah i agree with that after you show a prescription I wouldnt think they would want to take in any farther for the single fact of how exspensive the test are anyway

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      Quote Originally Posted by cbr929 View Post
      yeah i agree with that after you show a prescription I wouldnt think they would want to take in any farther for the single fact of how exspensive the test are anyway
      i agree with that too...i'd be surprised if they tested for it to begin with!
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      if you aren't cheating by someone's guidelines for sporting reasons and it's not out-right stated that is a no-no for your job like police, military,etc the cost is so prohibitive that most employers don't phuqing care.
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      Quote Originally Posted by daved150 View Post
      i agree with that too...i'd be surprised if they tested for it to begin with!
      a lot of companies are testing for it now cause of all this dam steroid news. I had a friend who was a manager at a tire store, got into an argument with an employee. The employee called corporate and told them they were afraid of him cause he used juice and next thing he knows he's tested, then fired.

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      the thing I don't agree about the article is that what he is saying will probably work with test only (ie prop, cyp, ent) but I don't see how other compounds aren't easily tested. You here it all the time "so and so tested positive for this". Correct me if I'm wrong?

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      ^well, they were given a heads up and he might have "looked" like he did them!..maybe more are and i'm just not aware of it. we dont here and i havnt heard of anyone around here that was subject to one
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      Quote Originally Posted by 6p6 View Post
      the thing I don't agree about the article is that what he is saying will probably work with test only (ie prop, cyp, ent) but I don't see how other compounds aren't easily tested. You here it all the time "so and so tested positive for this". Correct me if I'm wrong?
      well, if they go into the test, looking for SPECIFIC drugs, like winny or what not, then i imagine that if you did them, you'd test pos. as ignorant as most people are, i believe they would just order a test for testosterone
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      all I repeat ALL branches of federal government employees are subject to possible steroid testing...from the old cattle brand inspector in Texas to the desk clerk in DC...there trying to lead by example, you'll see alot of corporates follow

      Man I wish this frontpage steroid news would end...lets move onto a new drug feds! Preferably one with a victim!

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