TweetIf it is not knowledge in detroit, then it probaply is a rumor

TweetSeems like that kind of news would be pretty mainstream if it were true.

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Originally Posted by Skarn

Magic Johnson does not have AIDS. He has HIV, that is why he is still alive today.

Also, there has been no proven cure for cancer! The high frequency water is just another experimental method similar to Chemo and Radiation. The difference is that Chemo and Radiation treatments have been proven to work on the majority of people and thus has become the standard cancer treatment not just in the U.S., but worldwide. There are many cancer survivors that made it with Chemo and Radiation. But none are a cure, they send it into remission.

Skarn

High frequency water is not just another experimental method! Cancer is a certain frequency, so they take water and raise it's frequency to a level above water to kill the cancer. It is widely used in Germany.

Also no kidding chemo & radiation is standard treatment and people survive using it. But fact is RADIATION CAUSES CANCER! So in the quest to kill cancer it is in all essence causing more of it. Chemo on the other hand is a poison. Why you may ask? Because it not only kills the bad cells, but it also kills the good ones. It's not like it has a lie detector to see which cells are good & which ones are bad so it kills them all. Why do you think people get so sick on chemo?

That's just like flu shots. Flu shots have high levels of mercury which is proven to cause brain damage, epileptic seizures, and autism. Once the effects are caused they are irreversible. It's like putting a non video shielded speaker next to a tv. It will warp the screen. Sort of like mercury can warp your brain. Lots of people and doctors are trying to petition to have the mercury pulled out of those shots. But the major med corps like Glaxo Smith & major hospitals like St. Judes are all putting a block on the proposed changes. The politicians of course all are turning a cheek of course because these major corps again pay for their campaigns. Meanwhile there has been extensive studies and proof given to the government and them and the FDA still turn their cheek at it. So they are knowingly causing thousands of cases of brain damage yearly.

My point to this again? Stop trying to defend the US! Stop being so blinded by their rhetoric! Stop being a puppet that believes what you are told to believe. Go out do some damn research and open your eyes before you start throwing up the defense flag!

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Originally Posted by Skarn

Magic Johnson does not have AIDS. He has HIV, that is why he is still alive today.

Also, there has been no proven cure for cancer! The high frequency water is just another experimental method similar to Chemo and Radiation. The difference is that Chemo and Radiation treatments have been proven to work on the majority of people and thus has become the standard cancer treatment not just in the U.S., but worldwide. There are many cancer survivors that made it with Chemo and Radiation. But none are a cure, they send it into remission.

Skarn

Also cancer is a 3 1/2 billion dollar a day industry. Do you really think that they are going to pass that type of money up? How much do you think they chance to lose if they come out with the cure? Again they make money on the comeback!

Chemo and radiation do kill cancer, not send it into remission. Cancer comes back more visiously in other areas because.........THE RADIATION USED TO KILL THE FIRST CANCER CAUSES MORE CANCER! Again I'll repeat myself, why do you think they make you cover yourself when you get an xray? Because radiation causes cancer.

statistics also show that 1 in 10 people get cancer. Do you honestly think that our government doesn't see this not only as a huge maker but as a form of population control? Our poplulation is growing at alarming rates and obviously they need ways to fix this problem. Do you think they are going to come out and tell you that? No because the citizens would overthrow the government and there would be another revolutionary war.

On the news lately juice and other soda's are proven to cause cancer with the combinations they include in these products. Along with cancer causing agents in other foods our government is basically poisoning us little by little to A make money off of us, and B to control the population. Why don't you do some research and see what the cancer rates are in places like Germany and France. I bet the numbers will be nowhere remotely close to what they are here.

What about wine? Wine has pesticides that aren't regulated and pesticides are proven to cause cancer. Not only that but our government recently passed a law to allow companies to not have to disclose if they use pesticides. Gee, I wonder what the motive behind that is?

Oh and as for the Magic Johnson thing. HIV, AIDS...Whatever he has he no longer has it. Want proof? Go ask a paramedic what they do if they get stuck with a needle when attending to an HIV patient. They'll tell you they have a vaccine that's not available to the public that will kill the HIV virus. But yeah your right, he's still alive because he has HIV. Not because he was cured!!!!!

TweetWhoops I meant for it to say our government sees it as big money maker!

TweetHoly Sh*** you are one paranoid dude! You actually believe that the US gov't is using cancer as population control!!! LOL!

And yes, I do my research. The reason cancer comes back after chemo and radiation is NOT because the radiation caused more cancer! It's because they either didn't get it all or it Metastasized...it gets into the bloodstream and spreads.

Chemo and Radiation do NOT kill cancer. If it did, than cancer would be considered curable yes? Well, it's not. There are no cures for cancer in today's world.

Of course Chemo is a poison...that was never debated. Of course excess radiation can cause cancer....but when pinpointed at a growth, it also shrinks it. I guess you never researched pinpoint radiation therapy have you?

Bro, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you illogical statments any more. Paramedics have a vaccine for HIV not available to the public! LOL that's one of the funniest things I've ever heard! Oh I guess I should mention to you that I'm a paramedic at my volunteer fire department. I guess maybe the conspiracy is only local to your town? Come on, it's a proven, undisputable fact that there IS NO CURE FOR HIV or AIDS.

By the way, 1.5% of the North American population aged 15 years and older -- more than 3 million people -- had been diagnosed with at least one of 25 different cancers within the past 5 years, while about 1.2% of the population of Western Europe, or nearly 4 million people, had been diagnosed with cancer. Not much difference is there? Maybe they too are in on the conspiracy?

You make so many unsubstatiated claims it's riduculous. Do you also believe the moon landing was a gov't conspiracy/cover up?

I know the U.S. gov't isn't perfect. I know a lot of govt's aren't perfect. But compared to the majority of govt's in the world, I'll take ours!

Skarn

Originally Posted by DJDIGGLER

Also cancer is a 3 1/2 billion dollar a day industry. Do you really think that they are going to pass that type of money up? How much do you think they chance to lose if they come out with the cure? Again they make money on the comeback!

Chemo and radiation do kill cancer, not send it into remission. Cancer comes back more visiously in other areas because.........THE RADIATION USED TO KILL THE FIRST CANCER CAUSES MORE CANCER! Again I'll repeat myself, why do you think they make you cover yourself when you get an xray? Because radiation causes cancer.

statistics also show that 1 in 10 people get cancer. Do you honestly think that our government doesn't see this not only as a huge maker but as a form of population control? Our poplulation is growing at alarming rates and obviously they need ways to fix this problem. Do you think they are going to come out and tell you that? No because the citizens would overthrow the government and there would be another revolutionary war.

On the news lately juice and other soda's are proven to cause cancer with the combinations they include in these products. Along with cancer causing agents in other foods our government is basically poisoning us little by little to A make money off of us, and B to control the population. Why don't you do some research and see what the cancer rates are in places like Germany and France. I bet the numbers will be nowhere remotely close to what they are here.

What about wine? Wine has pesticides that aren't regulated and pesticides are proven to cause cancer. Not only that but our government recently passed a law to allow companies to not have to disclose if they use pesticides. Gee, I wonder what the motive behind that is?

Oh and as for the Magic Johnson thing. HIV, AIDS...Whatever he has he no longer has it. Want proof? Go ask a paramedic what they do if they get stuck with a needle when attending to an HIV patient. They'll tell you they have a vaccine that's not available to the public that will kill the HIV virus. But yeah your right, he's still alive because he has HIV. Not because he was cured!!!!!

TweetFirst of all your ignorance about HIV is unbelievable. I'm sure glad your not a volunteer paramedic in my area. Not because I'm flaming you as a person, but because you are obviously misinformed, and anyone that doesn't have the proper medical training doing medical work is dangerous. Why don't you try and look up about a treatment called HAART. That drug is what is used if anyone in the medical field is pricked with a needle from someone that just had HIV. Apparently your fire department doesn't value it's volunteers lives to much.

My wife goes to school with a guy that is a paramedic for a living. When they mentioned that in class he mentioned how he was stuck with a needle from someone with HIV and had to get the shot. He said it made him violently ill because it is a anti viral. So that was coming not only from her schools mouth but also from the mouth of a fellow paramedic.

Btw, while you are a volunteer paramedic....My wife is in medical school. These aren't things she voluntarily learns. I highly doubt the level of training a volunteer paramedic gets surpasses that of a medical student. On top of that she is among the top 3 in her class so she apparently must have some idea what she is talking about!

Now about my so called paranoia....

First off if the governement is not trying to cause cancer answer this for me....Why if it has been scientifically proven for alot of different foods, and beverages to cause cancer has the government aka the FDA (which is government run) pulled these items off of the shelves?

Are you saying that the claims that those things cause cancer is false?
What would the scientists that came up with that gain by making those claims? Nothing! Of course the FDA might try to defend the food companies but if you think their pockets aren't lined by major corps then you are obviously naive. It is fact that many politicians and government run agencies are getting money & gifts under the table from major corporations. Many of these politicians / government agencies have been thrown in jail for this type of thing. Many have still not been caught!

How come government just passed a law to allow companies to not have to mention if their product contains pesticides? Did you know that pesticides causes cancer? So why would the government allow them to hide that? Isn't that infringing on my rights to information? Are you honestly saying that there is no bad intentions there? Are you implying that our government is just stupid? No we have one of the most intelligent, IF NOT THE MOST intelligent government in the world. They know what they are doing wrong. They also know the general public is too stupid to see it.

Also as for your cancer claims I still would love to you to speak to some doctors in Germany and ask them about High frequency water treatment. Wee how well it works for them. Why don't you check up their success rate compared to ours. Then tell me why the FDA hasn't allowed this technology into the country? They claim there hasn't been enough testing with it. Well being that it's been around for well over 10 years I'd say there's been plenty of testing. On top of that are you honestly insinuating that water could or would have worse side effects than chemo and radiation?

TweetI also wanted to make sure it was clear to you though skarn that I'm not insulting your volunteering as a paramedic. That is very respectable and I give you alot of credit for that. I'm just saying that I'd be scared for someone to help me that was misinformed. Because how many other things could that person be misinformed about that could be life threatening when it comes to treatment.

I just wanted to make sure you understood I wasn't trying to take a shot at you, I was just trying to make a point.

TweetBro,

I appreciate that you were not taking a shot at me. You show very good maturity levels in that respect and again, thanks.

As far as HIV knowledge. Of course your wife gets more training/education in med school. I will never debate that. However, I am not ignorant in HIV knowledge! I fully know about HAART. See, my ex-wife works at the National Institute for Health (NIH) and is involved with all of the latest in cutting edge technology. HAART has been publically available since 1996. You said it's not available to the public which simply isn't true. Secondly, it's NOT A CURE! I'll say it again and you really need to understand this. THERE IS NO CURE FOR HIV or AIDS! HAART simply prolongs life by delaying symptoms. So it is you my friend that is terribly ignorant about HIV. Your exact statement was "they have a vaccine that's not available to the public that will kill the HIV virus". As you can read for yourself, this is so not true!

Here's a link so you can check it out: https://www.drugabuse.gov/researchreports/hiv/hiv3.html

Skarn

TweetFunny I helped build the new addition in the NIH almost three years ago (what a small world) & while I worked there my wife worked at the CDC under the director. As for the HAART treatment my wife read me a direct quote from her medical book that I forgot. I'll have to post it when she gets home.

As for cancer though her medical book clearly stated that Radiation & Chemo is a cure and not just a treatment to send it into remission. Of course if they aren't good doctors and don't get it all then of course it will go into remission because of their inability to get all of the cancer. Also if they get to it after it's already started to spread then it's all over from there. It doesn't matter what treatment you get at that point. That's a one way ticket you are not getting out of. My only point was there is other treatments that work just as well and our government ignores them for no reason. Water couldn't possibly be more dangerous than radiation.