TweetI don't understand what your saying in comparison to what you have outlined. You have 500mg test e for 1-8, then you outline 1-8 test e 1200-1500mg/wk? Then you have 1-3wks dbols or drol@ 50mg ed. Imo, that is not enough time for good results. You need to do at least 5 wks of either one. Also, how long are you going to run the eq, cause 8wk isn't enough and imo 800mg/wk is overkill. 600mg/wk of eq is max. I will also say doing aroma 25mg ed may hamper gains as it is much stronger than ldex. I would go for 12.5 mg eod or ed. Start off at 12.5 eod and if you start to have prob then up dosage to ed. Unless you are prone to gyno if you keep test at 500mg/wk and eq at 600mg there really isn't even a need for it. I just got done with drol 75mg ed for 6 wks with sust and deca and i haven't even used an anti-e.

Tweetu read most of my post wrong.....the 500 mg's weeks 1-8 is TREN...not test....im gonna run it for 8 weeks give my liver a break and then hop back on somewhere down the road.....the dbol or drol..i havnt decided which one but that is just to jumpstart my cycle....i dont wanna be on drol,tren,test,eq,all at the same time b/c of my liver..so by the time the tren and test is is my system the drol will be out....and ive ran both drugs before and i found there isnt really a minumum to stay on for 5 weeks with either oral....also eq dose is just right for me...alot of people wont go over 600 mg's of deca b/c the sides outweigh the effects and some say it stops werking...but ive known many people to go above 800 mg's of eq....and also i wrote aroma EOD at 25 mg's...not everyday...and that werked well for me last time i was on over a gram of test a week as should it be for most people who go over a gram

Tweeto and also i wrote the after 10 weeks of test i will switch up coumpounds to cyp but i nmy outline i put 1-8 weeks....its gonna be either 8 or 10 weeks ill switch coumpounds...ive always done that but i read mikeys post about the one carbon missing and included that in my post

TweetRun d-rol for 5 weeks and run the tren for 10 since it's a long ester.

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Originally Posted by skeer126

week1-3 dbol or anadrol @50 mg's a day
week 1-8 tren enanthate@500 mg's/week
week1-8 test enanthate@1200-1500 mg's/week
week 1-throughout eq@800 mg's a week
week 1- throughout gh starting at 2iu'sfor first few weeks...gonna werk up to 4-6 depending on how i react
igf- will start and run three weeks every month and a half

how about
week 1-5 dbol ed @ 50mg or drol ed @ 75mg weekends off
week 1-8 tren @500mg
week 1-24 test @ 750mg only reason saying 750mg cause don't know your cycle history
week 1-24 eq @ 400mg
week 1-24 gh @ 4 iu's ed weekends off
week 10-14 igf
week 9-14 the dbol or the drol again it will help with the igf

just my opinion ....the doses seemed really high to me
you should also include hcg and maybe run through out just to keep your boys in check and to avoid crashing hard when coming off such a big cycle

Tweet[quote=snickers1]how about
week 1-5 dbol ed @ 50mg or drol ed @ 75mg weekends off
week 1-8 tren @500mg
week 1-24 test @ 750mg only reason saying 750mg cause don't know your cycle history
week 1-24 eq @ 400mg
week 1-24 gh @ 4 iu's ed weekends off
week 10-14 igf
week 9-14 the dbol or the drol again it will help with the igf

just my opinion ....the doses seemed really high to me
you should also include hcg and maybe run through out just to keep your boys in check and to avoid crashing hard when coming off such a big cycle[/quote
seems alittle bit cleaner...but i gotta keep the doses the way i had it......this is my 5th cyclei think...the last 3 ive been on 4-6 months each...with about 4 months off in between but my last one i ended 6months ago....i was up to 1200 mg 's test and imreally psyched to try the gh b/c i wanna try and split some ot thosemuscle cells...also in between this cycle ive ran igf twice so hopefully there are new muscle cells the have developed and i can blow themuo now kinda like my first cycle...well see tho

Tweetneone have ne other opinions..thinking of throwing in low doses of t3 ..ne suggestions are tottaly open...i feel pretty good about my plan and just wanna bump this one more time...but i am open to neone who has ne other suggestions...maybe some vets and people with alot of cycles under thier belts...bigmikey or rado, neone?

Tweetthat's too much gear. there are state champions who take less, probably even guys at the national level. i know of a pro who is 320 lbs (with abs) who takes no more than 1500mg/wk.

i got to 280 pounds with no more than 1000mg/wk.

3 grams a week at your level of development is a mistake. what are you going to do when you get to 220? go up to 5 grams a week?

do you plan on competing? if so, that is still too much gear at this stage. you don't need that much to grow. and if you don't plan on competing then i really think you are making a mistake here.

in the end i know you are going to do what you want, but you should really consider your goals and health.

that's just too much gear.

and T3? how about sorting your diet out.

IMO

Tweet6 compounds, huh? i don't think so. no more than 3....MAYBE 4.

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Originally Posted by nishnish

that's too much gear. there are state champions who take less, probably even guys at the national level. i know of a pro who is 320 lbs (with abs) who takes no more than 1500mg/wk.

i got to 280 pounds with no more than 1000mg/wk.

3 grams a week at your level of development is a mistake. what are you going to do when you get to 220? go up to 5 grams a week?

do you plan on competing? if so, that is still too much gear at this stage. you don't need that much to grow. and if you don't plan on competing then i really think you are making a mistake here.

in the end i know you are going to do what you want, but you should really consider your goals and health.

that's just too much gear.

and T3? how about sorting your diet out.

IMO

definatly appreciate the concern and looking out....i will be competing soon...gonna see how i look after this cycle..trying to get everything in proportion and gonna take a step back and see how it panned out...i probly could lower the doses but i feel that everything is pretty mediocre except maybe the test...tren at 500 mg's is reasonable and the eq is pretty reasonable along with the dbol...imo at least...its just that the i respond better at higher doses..i wouldnt do it if i didnt ya know?

Tweet...I MIGHT BE SMALLER THAN U, I DUNNO, BUT I STICK MY TEST BETWEEN 1000-1250 MAX.......ur palnning to compete wt that cycle is way off

TweetAND IF U ARE PALNNING TO COMPETE WITH THAT CYCLE,U PLANNED IT WRONG AND UR TIMMING IS OFF BIG TIME..FYI

eq will hit u at least on week 5-7

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Originally Posted by skeer126

week1-3 dbol or anadrol @50 mg's a day
week 1-8 tren enanthate@500 mg's/week
week1-8 test enanthate@1200-1500 mg's/week
week 1-throughout eq@800 mg's a week
week 1- throughout gh starting at 2iu'sfor first few weeks...gonna werk up to 4-6 depending on how i react
igf- will start and run three weeks every month and a half

ok bro listen to me: with those gears ^, u don't have the gears to get u ripped and well defined for a show..but gonna suggest if u want to compete, u need , winny, t3, clen..
i'am gonna work with what u have...for 24 weeks....

week1 to week 24:1000mg of (test 500mg cyp+500mg enan)

week 1 to week 24: eq at 600mg......800 is too much for u

gh week 1 to week 24: 4 ius and weekend off(no salt sodium or dairy produts, gh, will make u puffy if u are eating bad)

week 1 to week 5: 50 mg of anadrol and weekendoff
week 2 to week 4: 60mcg of igf1 (ig1 need heavy anadrogen like anadrol)

week 16 to week 24: tren
week 20 to week 24: igf1 as well....

but for a show ,from what i'am seeing from ur pics:
u need test, eq, tren, winny, t3, clen, gh, igf1, but U DO NOT TAKE EM ALL THE SAME TIME...ITS LIKE THE DEATH SENTENCE