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Originally Posted by Slightly Enhanced

I'd say that the title of this article is a bit extreme, I would also suggest that any newbie buy nolva before they start their cycle, You won't know if you are prone to gyno until you get it and you will need it for pct also, which this article doesn't address.......so if I were still a mod I would change your title for the benefit of newbies

i agree!! i'm glad i had it on hand for my first run!

TweetDef good to have it on hand.. i dont usually have a problem with gyno but on a few occasions i was glad i had some nolva on hand.

Tweetwell i have a box of nolvadex i was gonna use as PCT is that still ok? and i was wondering can i take tribulus with nolvadex to kick back in my balls faster or SAN brand endo-test.. i heard it was good it just seems to have alot of tribulus in it, or will this shut my balls down even more or whatnot? any info?

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Originally Posted by juiceyjuice

well i have a box of nolvadex i was gonna use as PCT is that still ok? and i was wondering can i take tribulus with nolvadex to kick back in my balls faster or SAN brand endo-test.. i heard it was good it just seems to have alot of tribulus in it, or will this shut my balls down even more or whatnot? any info?

Yes you should still use the nolv for your pct. I usually run it at 40mg for 2 wks and then 20mg for 2 more......or each wk taper the dose...40-30-20-10. Tribulus is a good one too according to those who use it. For suppression I prefer HCG.

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Originally Posted by juiceyjuice

well i have a box of nolvadex i was gonna use as PCT is that still ok? and i was wondering can i take tribulus with nolvadex to kick back in my balls faster or SAN brand endo-test.. i heard it was good it just seems to have alot of tribulus in it, or will this shut my balls down even more or whatnot? any info?

just to clarify, nolva and tribulus have completely different purposes, I like tribulus, you will need to take at least 3 to 4 grams a day, I suggest going to vitamin world on the first tuesday and wednesday of Feb to buy the tribulus

Tweeti think the negative impact is overstated in this article. perhaps there are more effective drugs out there now, but the fact remains that tamox is a drug that works and provides a viable"saftey net" for many bodybuilders. interesting article though snickers.

TweetSnickers Bro, you should really add to that title, cause it may be necessary for some newbies or anyone that has not done too many cycles, as they don't know how their bodies will react to certain aas. I have to agree with SE, So saying it should be avoided at all costs, is not really a good point. Good article though! I use only clomid, proviron for pct. Some endo believe herbs like trib may hamper spematoza. Next pct i will be taking my regular clomid plus add 20mg ed of nolva.

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Originally Posted by mick-G

Snickers Bro, you should really add to that title, cause it may be necessary for some newbies or anyone that has not done too many cycles, as they don't know how their bodies will react to certain aas. I have to agree with SE, So saying it should be avoided at all costs, is not really a good point. Good article though! I use only clomid, proviron for pct. Some endo believe herbs like trib may hamper spematoza. Next pct i will be taking my regular clomid plus add 20mg ed of nolva.

true mick everyone should always have it on hand, but to use it w.o even knowing if you need it or not is just a waste of $/gains

TweetWell, i just think the title "Why Nolvadex Should be Avoided at All Cost", is alittle extreame. If i was newbie, id prob use a lite dosage of ldex, say .25mg eod and taper it off, and if still no signs of gyno slowly discontinue. At least you won't be taking that much of a risk and it will help in reducing water. Nolva, i myself do not take other than with pct sometime if it is a harsh cycle. Only time you are wasting $ is when you are using and have no gyno, so yes you are correct in that respect. Some ppl though like to use it reguardless?, but i suspect they have had gyno prob in the past. It is better in that case to use and no get the boobies then to no use and get the man boobs. Excuse my englis ladies.

TweetIf they had gyno usage in the past, then I am all for it, why get boobs lol...

As far as running l-dex, I'm still against it b/c I think water retention is super anabolic and helps big time on strength... That's just me though... I know water retention is a little less healty but L-dex isnt exactly health either...shit, gear isnt healthy!

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Originally Posted by Slightly Enhanced

just to clarify, nolva and tribulus have completely different purposes, I like tribulus, you will need to take at least 3 to 4 grams a day, I suggest going to vitamin world on the first tuesday and wednesday of Feb to buy the tribulus

what u mean they have diff purposes.. nolva is used to kick your balls bakc in so to speak for PCT anyways right? so doesnt tribulus boost your own normal testesterone well so they say? im saing if u took them together woudlnt it kick your nuts in better or help u keep gains a lil more or shoudl u not take them together.. caus ei know guys that come off juice cycles and take over the counter steroid complexes to keep there gains and they stay large man ive never tried it but i have a shit load of endo-test, steroidal complex and tribulus on hand plus nolva 20mg tabs enough for 3 weeks

TweetThe downside of novla is it occupies the same recetpors as androgens. There are better anti-e's out there. I'm amazed at the "I'll throw in 20mg of novla to keep off the bloat". Occupies the sames receptors as your androgens.... DUH!

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Originally Posted by juiceyjuice

what u mean they have diff purposes.. nolva is used to kick your balls bakc in so to speak for PCT anyways right? so doesnt tribulus boost your own normal testesterone well so they say? im saing if u took them together woudlnt it kick your nuts in better or help u keep gains a lil more or shoudl u not take them together.. caus ei know guys that come off juice cycles and take over the counter steroid complexes to keep there gains and they stay large man ive never tried it but i have a shit load of endo-test, steroidal complex and tribulus on hand plus nolva 20mg tabs enough for 3 weeks

OK whoever told you trib boost ur test is BULLSHITTING you... it only bust your LH so hes eactly right... If you want ur sex drive back trib is your thing. it does NOT boost or help boost test levels...