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Originally Posted by JsJs24

Also, you should lift for a couple months before starting. Try and build back some of the muscle you lost from your time off.

I dont plan on hitting it straight away, ive been back at the gym for about 3 weeks, would be looking to start Early to mid december depending on how im progressing.

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Originally Posted by Mitsos

I dont plan on hitting it straight away, ive been back at the gym for about 3 weeks, would be looking to start Early to mid december depending on how im progressing.

Good thinking bro.

TweetThanks champ, im just up in the air at the moment of what to take. I want to out on some lean size so am thinking maybe a Prop / Stan or Sus cycle

Tweethow much of a damn bloat r we talking about here? I have heard that this bloat is exaggerated big time? I;m still contemplating to add d bol to my 1st cycle. I want size and strength, won't the bloat go away after the dbol is not adminstered anymore?

TweetI agree with js...test and eq..throw the dbol in if you wish, but hit the gym hard, and wait until you hit a platuea before jumping back on...i made that mistake, jumping back on gear way too soon after a complete break from working out, and my shoulder has never been the same since.

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Originally Posted by Adam Banks

how much of a damn bloat r we talking about here? I have heard that this bloat is exaggerated big time? I;m still contemplating to add d bol to my 1st cycle. I want size and strength, won't the bloat go away after the dbol is not adminstered anymore?

I prefer to be hard than bloated. One of my mates is hitting the d-bol in a few weeks so ill see how bad he bloats up and then ill decide after that i suppose.

TweetTest E, Deca and Dbol.. best cycle for beginners..

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Originally Posted by Diggi

Test E, Deca and Dbol.. best cycle for beginners..

best cycle for begginers is test only...period!

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Originally Posted by pigmeat

best cycle for begginers is test only...period!

why just test? So u can see what it does alone?

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Originally Posted by Adam Banks

how much of a damn bloat r we talking about here? I have heard that this bloat is exaggerated big time? I;m still contemplating to add d bol to my 1st cycle. I want size and strength, won't the bloat go away after the dbol is not adminstered anymore?

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Tweeteverybody is different adam, but as a rule, dbol causes lots of water retention. this can be minimized with anti-e's and a strict diet that is low in carbs and sodium, but i believe this hinders your gains somewhat...

i look at it like this: if you are going to take dbol, stop worrying about water retention... if ya can't stop worrying about water retention, don't take dbol. simple as that.

TweetIm already on a low card diet cause i gotta loose the extra few kilos i put on whilst i wasnt training......

Tweettest only is best for a novice because....you dont need much to grow at first. A low dose of test will do the trick. Then on your future cycles, you can start bumping the doses and adding compounds. Also, you can see how you react to diff drugs. If you get gyno while taking test and deca together the first time...how do you know which one is doing the damage.....Now if you run test solo, and no trouble, but on your second or third you add deca, and you get a ton of sides...well you figure it out!

Originally Posted by Adam Banks

why just test? So u can see what it does alone?