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Originally Posted by muscle_n_blood

Stick with test only. Adding d-bol will not improve your final look at cycle end or beyond. You will gain just fine on the test if you eat and train right. This is your opportunity to fully understand how the #1 AAS treats you. You can fully evaluate your progress, your side effects, and how your pct goes. That way, when you add D-bol next time, you will know exactly what is doing what.

Exactly the answer i was looking for. thnx

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Originally Posted by diggiboy

Use dbol at 35mg for 4wks..and drink plenty of water...

my bro who has a few cycles under his belt told me to use the same dosage. Rather then 5 weeks at 25mg

TweetI would run Dbol AT LEAST six wks

Tweethonestly you could get by without it and gain good but i think it will induce more gains....if you do run use it at least 4 weeks at 25mgs to start.

Tweethonestly you could get by without it and gain good but i think it will induce more gains....if you do run use it at least 4 weeks at 25mgs to start.

Tweeti have some on hand, but im gonna safe it for my next cycle.

TweetYou NEED to run some Liquidex or something to control the bloat, even on just the test alone. My first cycle was Test E with Halo thrown in for a few weeks, and I held a shitload of water, very noticable in the facce.
I would skip the Dbol this time, or else thow in another compound that doesnt aromatize.

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Originally Posted by Gooseneck

You NEED to run some Liquidex or something to control the bloat, even on just the test alone. My first cycle was Test E with Halo thrown in for a few weeks, and I held a shitload of water, very noticable in the facce.
I would skip the Dbol this time, or else thow in another compound that doesnt aromatize.

yes, i need to make a purchase of L-DEX. Know of any websites that sell it for a good price? Im sure any researxh company has it at a fair price.

I hate water bloat in the face. Creatine gives me this effect a little bit.

Did u run L-DEX when ran ur first cycle with test E?

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Originally Posted by muscle_n_blood

Stick with test only. Adding d-bol will not improve your final look at cycle end or beyond. You will gain just fine on the test if you eat and train right. This is your opportunity to fully understand how the #1 AAS treats you. You can fully evaluate your progress, your side effects, and how your pct goes. That way, when you add D-bol next time, you will know exactly what is doing what.

This is good advise IF he is going for a "look". If he is going for strength/size rather than look, then dbol could be added to the first cycle. But, it is a benefit to know what a single compound is going to do for you. Pros and cons...