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      Hello all,

      My current profile is:
      Age 30
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      appx. 17% BF

      I am currently in serious cardio mode trying to get my BF down to about 13-14%, I am also in fairly good shape strength wise and my training is kept very regular. Once I complete my BF goals I would like to do a beginners cycle with a goal/target of about 7-10lbs of muscle gain. I have a cycle in mind and would appreciate any recommendations/changes you may have in mind.

      Weeks 1-4: D-bol, 30mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: QV Test. Cypionate 400mg (Inject once a week)
      Weeks 1-10: Nolvadex 20mg ED (Should I extend this into PCT??)
      PCT: Clomid 50mg ED for 30 days

      I was thinking of drawing the Test CYP with a 20g needle and injecting with a 25G needle.

      I am worried about bloat so this is why I am planning on taking the Nolvadex ED. Should I be taking this for PCT as well? If so, for how long?

      Please let me know what you think of this cycle and what changes could be made to make it more efficient.

      Thanks in advance.

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      Default Re: 1st Cycle - Please review

      looks pretty good bro except i would run arimidex for bloat instead of nolvadex. and for PCT most people run clomid for 3 days at 300mg, 11 days 100mg, and the rest at 50mg for a total of 21 days

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      Default Re: 1st Cycle - Please review

      its a good first cycle, if your worreid about bloat take ldex. and yes u can run nolva for pct aswell. u want to take your clomid, 300mg the first day, 100mg for7-10days, and 50mg for the rest of the 21-28days. then nolva 20mg ed with that would work well.
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      Take 20mg nolv and .25mg liquadex throughout the cycle. Nolvadex will help keep your lipids in check. Liquadex ran by itself can scre with lipids pretty bad sometimes.
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      Thank you for your responses:

      According to your recommendations I should change my plan slightly to something like this:

      Weeks 1-4: D-bol, 30mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: QV Test. Cypionate 400mg (Inject once a week)
      Weeks 1-10: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: Arimidex 1mg ED
      PCT Day 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      PCT Day 1: Clomid 300mg
      PCT Day 2-10: Clomid 100mg ED
      PCT Day 11-28: Clomid 50mg ED

      I cannot find a source for liquidex, are Arimidex 1mg tabs the same?

      Thanks

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      Adex is the name brand but you don't want to take more than .5mg ed. Therefore, one-half a tab. Ldex is what I suggest. Have you checked out our board sponsors? If you run ldex use .25mg but not more than .5mg.
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      Ive got the 1mer's by BD if your going to take take like Js said, but id do 1/2 tab eod. Skip the nolva you shouldn't need it for this cycle, just save it incase.

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      i personally would shoot 2 times a week, to keep levels more stable. also its less oil in one spot. Its your choice though, some say once a week other will say twice.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Roach
      Thank you for your responses:

      According to your recommendations I should change my plan slightly to something like this:

      Weeks 1-4: D-bol, 30mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: QV Test. Cypionate 400mg (Inject once a week)
      Weeks 1-10: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: Arimidex 1mg ED
      PCT Day 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      PCT Day 1: Clomid 300mg
      PCT Day 2-10: Clomid 100mg ED
      PCT Day 11-28: Clomid 50mg ED

      I cannot find a source for liquidex, are Arimidex 1mg tabs the same?

      Thanks
      i like it!! just lower that arimidex dose like js said. clomid, armidex, nolva is pheednos pct, and he know his shit.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mick-G
      Ive got the 1mer's by BD if your going to take take like Js said, but id do 1/2 tab eod. Skip the nolva you shouldn't need it for this cycle, just save it incase.

      it will help keep the cholesterol in check seeing that arimidex will hurt it. just like js said

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      Quote Originally Posted by badasz32
      i personally would shoot 2 times a week, to keep levels more stable. also its less oil in one spot. Its your choice though, some say once a week other will say twice.
      I'm with you, i would shoot 200 2 times a week! just cause i like it that way!!!


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      Default Re: 1st Cycle - Please review

      I like using Nolva all the way throough as well - its my "safety net" for gyno. Also, I would run the Nolva another 2 weeks @ 20mg ED past the Clomid and Ldex. But that's just me.

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      Default Re: 1st Cycle - Please review

      Thanks for your replies and input, this is awesome!

      Here is the planned cycle with the added changes:

      Weeks 1-4: D-bol, 30mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: QV Test. Cypionate 400mg (Inject twice a week)
      Weeks 1-10: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      Weeks 1-10: Arimidex .5mg EOD
      PCT Day 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg ED
      PCT Day 1: Clomid 300mg
      PCT Day 2-10: Clomid 100mg ED
      PCT Day 11-28: Clomid 50mg ED

      Does this look ok?

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      yep.
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      the only thing i would change is run the arimidex @ .25mg ED all the way till the end of pct

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