Coming down./Clen

[markriley]

TweetIs the comedown from clen as harsh as ephedra?

I took ephedra as Xenardine RFA-1 for 2 1/2 years. I rarely cycled on off but fot the whole 2 1/2 years the ephedra gave me a euphoric feeling 80% of the time and invincible 100% of the time. Up until the time i quit taking the ECA I didnt do drugs and rarely drank. I stopped taking it and I couldn't wake up in the morning, felt groggy for hours once i woke up, couldnt sleep at night, had cravings for food all day long, and i was craving something to give me the euphoria ephedra gave me. I didn't delve into the world of drugs but i was teetering right there. My room mate has the same story. Except he is now hooked on vicodin and says its the only way he can get energy.

My diet is good, I lift hard, jog and go to wrestling practice daily but i'm no where near as cut up as i was on the ECA. I'm considering taking some clen but I don't want to deal with it if it has the mental attachment associated with it like ephedra did.

[Got Gear?]

TweetYour body adjusts to clen very quickly. Taking it for longer than a month at a time is a waste... after a couple of weeks it starts to loose effectiveness very quickly.

Clen is technically a CNS (Central Nervous Stimulator)..wheras Caffine/Ephidrine is an amphetimine.

If you stick to a 2week on/2week off schedule I don't think you'll have much to worry about. But even then.. none of this stuff is good for you on a long term basis. I'm amazed that you used ECA for 2.5years. It's really ment to be used as a diet aid, and not a daily suppliment.

[markriley]

Tweetthanks for the input

[prolangtumisback]

TweetWell, not to be nitpicky, but Ephedrine is not an amphetamine. Believe me, I have taken amphetamines for my ADHD. As for clen being addictive, you may notice a drop in energy, but you wont crave it or anything of that nature. I would say ephedrine has more potential for addiction than clen. Taper down the last week, and maybe try 2g of l-tyrosine and 200mg of caffiene for energy.

[Got Gear?]

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Well, not to be nitpicky, but Ephedrine is not an amphetamine. Believe me, I have taken amphetamines for my ADHD. As for clen being addictive, you may notice a drop in energy, but you wont crave it or anything of that nature. I would say ephedrine has more potential for addiction than clen. Taper down the last week, and maybe try 2g of l-tyrosine and 200mg of caffiene for energy.

I'm pretty sure they all come from the same family of drugs.. amphetamines.

Caffine and ephedrine are just weaker forms. Like how codine is a weaker opiate.

Did you know that ephidrine is actually the main ingredient in making Crystal Meth? That's because it's only a couple of molecules away from it's much more potent cousin.

[prolangtumisback]

Tweetyes, I did know that, but ephedrine and amphetamines have much different severity of actions.

[Got Gear?]

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yes, I did know that, but ephedrine and amphetamines have much different severity of actions.

Yes I agree. Nothing like the hard stuff.

I did some research and I guess that technicly they arn't in the same family of drugs. It's effects are described as "amphetimine-like"

[Shiner22nd]

TweetI'm sure you aren't wanting to hear what these folks have to say, but they are actually all right. Everyone is different. I've personally never had negative sides with clen before (just jittery), but many have. It wasn't addictive to me, but could be with you. Basically, my advice is that if you really were/are addicted to Anything negative, then you might want to see a doc about it. Sometimes things can really get to you and you don't even realize it until it's already happend. It's not really your desire for the ECA that concerns me, but your desire for that "feeling", which could lead (like you said) to other more serious drugs. Be careful and stay away from that stuff. Just my 2 cents worth....I just wanna make sure you'll be in the game for many years to come.....good luck...Shiner

[markriley]

TweetNo I was expectin t hear all of this or I wouldnt have asked. I like to know consequences even if its not what I like to hear.

[whitetail]

Tweetfrom my experience clen is much more mellow than ephedrine. clen gives me hot flashes,shakes and crazy dreams which i like. ephedrine just gives me anxiety. within 2 weeks you will be taking at alot. i took 200 one day and a couple sugar free redbulls. although i remember that day clearly it will be the last time i take that much.

just b sure to ramp down. i cut off cold turkey once and i was freakin immobile for 2 days. if you ramp its like nothin coming off