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      The problem that all athletes face when coming off of a cycle of androgenic anabolic steroids is keeping the gains they've worked so hard to attain. Many experts have spent a great deal of time addressing this situation and attempting to find a solution. After a great deal of research and working with bodybuilders, I feel I have come up with the most effective solution to date. By examining other's techniques and results I have been able to determine what is most likely to work for the average bodybuilder using steroids. I am by no means saying this is the end of all recovery formula's or that I am an expert in the medical field. I am simply offering an effective solution to the most common problem all athlete's experience after a cycle.

      The first problem is to restore the testicular axis to normal after having been suppressed from the testosterone intake. Those athletes who use the compounds that have effect on the levels of testosterone can use this formula as well to further increase their gains.

      Since we all know that creatine monohydrate is very effective in maintaining strength and creatine phosphate stores, it is highly recommended that you maintain a high dose of 30 grams per day for at least the duration of this formula.

      Assuming you are coming off of an eight or ten week cycle, you should have started tapering the doses down in the last two or three weeks. This allows the body to return to normal levels much more evenly. Let's say that the start of each week is Monday. On the Monday of the seventh week in an eight week cycle, begin taking 25mg a day of Proviron.

      Proviron keeps the ratio in favor of the androgens without effecting the natural production of testosterone, thereby adding to spermatogenisis. This double action drug begins to reduce the amount of estrogen in the body by preventing the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen so that possible gyno, water retention and female pattern fat distribution may be avoided. It will also give the body a much harder look.

      The eighth week of the cycle is when critical timing begins. This is the last week of the intake of the steroids and when the body realizes what is starting to happen. On the Monday of this week, increase the dosage of the Proviron to 50mg a day.

      At this time, we also want to use of Cyclofenil. Cyclofenil is an estrogen that act's as an anti-estrogen and as stimulant for the body to produce more testosterone. Cyclofenil acts in a very similar manner to Nolvadex in that it does not block the aromatization of testosterone, but occupies the estrogen receptors in the body so that the stronger estrogens cannot become active. Cyclofenil should be taken once a day at a dose of 100mg.

      We also want to begin to prepare the blood for the following week. We have to make sure the blood has enough raw material in the way of steroid intermediates for the testes to increase testosterone production. To do this, we start taking 250mg of DHEA a day, starting on the Friday of week 8.

      The ninth week is the most critical time of the cycle. This is where things get interesting. On the Monday, up the dosage of Cyclofenil to 200mg a day, but keep the Proviron and DHEA at their respective doses.

      On the Thursday we want to inject 5000 IU's of HCG to stimulate the Leydig's cells to produce more testosterone. Any more than this will overload the system and convert more to estrogen. On the Friday we want to start the intake of clomiphene citrate or Clomid.

      Clomid stimulates the entire hypo testicular axis to produce more test and at a faster rate. We want to start with 100mg a day.

      In the tenth week of our formula we continue with all dosages at their respective levels, but we drop the dose of Clomid to 50mg a day on the Wednesday. By now the testosterone levels in your body should be way up there and you will feel like you've just hit your second wind. Surges in strength are not uncommon here.

      The eleventh week is where we start to wind everything down. On the Monday we discontinue the use of the Clomid and the DHEA. We also reduce the dose of Proviron to 25mg a day and the cyclofenil to 100mg a day. We stop taking the cyclofenil altogether on Friday. Testosterone levels should be very high, estrogen levels should be fairlylow, and cortisol levels will back to normal levels. On the Sunday, the last day of the cycle, stop taking everything.

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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      GREAT ARTICLE MICK
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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      Thanks mick. I'll print this out. I may be needing some more info from you in a few weeks. I'm in my 4th week now (only doing 10).


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      Nice post, I wish I could use creatine like they suggest and I know many do but it tears my stomach apart. I've even tried alot of different brands.

      I think there are better ways of administering hcg as well. I don't like the one big shot idea.
      Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups







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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      good job mick

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      good read brother

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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      mick what about if a person has to run nolva all the way through?
      also can proviron be run from beginning of cycle through pct?
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      nice post....and good question about the nolva....i do the same badasz

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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      There will not be a prob with running proviron at that low of dosage. Creatine, i would definate find the micronized kind, as it disolves instantly in beverages unlike the regular kind which is gritty and settles. I also take the creatine pre and post cycle with food. HRT requires at least e3d inject of at least 1000iu.

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      Default Re: Keeping Gains after a steroid cycle

      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO
      GREAT ARTICLE MICK
      Agreed, I'm going to try this next time.
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      very good read!

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      Quote Originally Posted by mick-G
      There will not be a prob with running proviron at that low of dosage. Creatine, i would definate find the micronized kind, as it disolves instantly in beverages unlike the regular kind which is gritty and settles. I also take the creatine pre and post cycle with food. HRT requires at least e3d inject of at least 1000iu.
      ok would there be a need for cyclo....i run nolva at 20mgs a day thru my entire cycle till the end of pct....i'm assuming no...and also if the nolva can replace the cyclo.... how would me running it thru the cycle effect its effectiveness during pct....

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      Great post guys, this is especially good for the newbies to '
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      Quote Originally Posted by edvedr
      ok would there be a need for cyclo....i run nolva at 20mgs a day thru my entire cycle till the end of pct....i'm assuming no...and also if the nolva can replace the cyclo.... how would me running it thru the cycle effect its effectiveness during pct....
      I personally do not think there will be any probs running thruout cycle and pct, as Cyclofenil and Nolva are very similar in action, just so you follow the above pct program and substitute the cyclo for the nolva you shouldn't have the prob with rebound effect or retaining gains.

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      good post, i wouldnt be able to do the creatine tho. it keeps me up at night peeing so i get pretty shitty sleep

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