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Originally Posted by LARGE&INCHARGE

DECA!

Deca is like an aspirin Adequan is like a shot of morphine, both relieve the pain only one a hell of alot better then the other.

Tweetice and advil wil provide the fastest short term relief

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Originally Posted by AlmostThere

Deca is like an aspirin Adequan is like a shot of morphine, both relieve the pain only one a hell of alot better then the other.

Yes, but Adequan doesn't build muscle. Deca does both. My fentanyl patch on my arm is 80 times more potent than morphine and would make him forget he even has joints for 72 hours straight but it ain't gonna make him any bigger. Deca on the other hand will benefit him in both areas and can be taken IM vs IA.

TweetTry taking 8-10 capsules Beverly Joint Care every day. Joint Care contains Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM, as well as Vit C & E, manganese, boron, and evening primrose oil, which is now being praised as a wonder supp for sore joints. These come in big gel caps, and seem to work far better on rotator cuff and elbow soreness than any other glusamine supp I've tried. 3 capsules contain 1000mg Glucosamine sulfate.

I have found flax oil even more important than glucosamine for sore joints and tendons. Ever since Lakeville Thor convinced me to try 5 tbs per day, my elbows and rotator cuffs have been pain-free. Works like magic, and effects are noticeable soon after you start taking it. Plus, there are a multitude of nutritional benefits to be found in flax oil. I now take 4 Joint Care a day and 3-4 tbs flax as a maintenance dose.

Below is a post from Andrew Thorssen at BB.com. He is an abnormally strong young powerlifter and often rails against the norm...but he's usually right.

Originally Posted by lakevillethor

Look,

I am going to cut through the bullshit here. Literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I HAVE TOLD TO TAKE FLAX OIL AT 5 TABLESPOONS DAILY HAS COMPLTELY GOTTEN RID OF THEIR JOINT PAIN (this is about 25 people)!!! In addition, to again reiterate my point, for the last week I intentionally did not take any flaxseed oil at my normal dose of 5-7 tablespoons daily. Guess what? I could hardly squat yesterday because my joints hurt so bad. I also lost 4 pounds. I bet within a week they will be feeling great again due to the lubricating oil.

Two of the success stories will follow:

My mother in law (well, basically) has fibromyalgia and diabetes. Her joint pain has gone down significantly since she started taking flaxseed oil (3 tablespoons for her).

Also, my buddy George who I lift with when I am in MN hasn't been able to squat for 5 years (he's 41) - he is 5'10'', 265. I would say he's around 13% bf - a freakshow no doubt. ANyway, since he started taking flaxseed oil at my doses, he is squating again.

Seriously people, I am not lying about this. Try it if you have joint pain.
-AT

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Originally Posted by orionstar

Thanks to all!

What is MSM?

MSM (methlysulfonylmethane) is a relative to dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), a unique therapeutic agent used worldwide in the treatment of many painful and inflammatory conditions ...

MSM is a bioavailable form of sulfur, which is necessary for the proper function of the body's skin, hair and nails, connective tissue, amino acid production and immune system. Sulfur must be consumed each day for healthy function and growth of the body.

Tweetgreat post JBZ

TweetMake sure your drinking plenty of water, don't overload your joints with weight thats too heavy for you to handle, and make sure your taking EFA's and Flaxoil, which you can get at any hf store.

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Originally Posted by John Benz

evening primrose oil, which is now being praised as a wonder supp for sore joints.

Women's Evening Primrose is also the #1 OTC supplement you can take to combat gyno also. This would be an added plus if your juicing also.

Tweetwell i wanna know where to get adeqaun..i have heard you can get without prescription some places but everywhere i have tried they need prescription or does anyone know how to get a px for ADEQUAN?... either way wanna try it

TweetI take clucosamine ,flax oil and gelitine for my joint pain and it seems to work.But I had some elbow pain take was just insane no matter what I took it wasn't working.I finally went to see a pt/massage theropist she ended up rubbing out some knots around the elbow and forearm with her thumbs.Let me tell you what it was some serious pain it took about three weeks and the pain was gone.My pain was so bad I couldn't even hold on to any weight it was a chore to put socks on.The pain has not come back yet,but it seems to help when I do forearms once a week.This worked for me try it out get a hold of a place that does medical massages-pt and must be hands,to get there thumbs into take deep tissue and work out those nots.Good luck

TweetI had the same problem with my elbows too ,=from lifting too heavy !(probably from winni) You have control as much as you can handle before it gets better .... before you injured yourself even more ! I used glucosomine/chron but read from various boards and alot liked deca for the joints ! So I'd throw deca in the mix also fish/flax and drink plenty of water !

TweetI keep hearin people say that winny makes their joints hurt...but I read on other posts that winny increases collagen synthesis...in fact,it is considered number 3 after eqiupoise and deca....?